. Twenty-six days of war is too much.
The Israeli government needs to thell the international community "Thanks, but no thanks." There has been an international force in Lebanon for three decades, and its presence has done no good. Israel has repeatedly had to enter Lebanon to stop attacks taking place from the very shadow of UNIFIL facilities, while hezbollah and other groups have operated with impunity. Indeed, the last UN resolution on the issue of southern Lebanon required the disarming of Hezbollah and disbanding of its military forces. That did not happen, leading to the current situation.
The time has come for Israel to complete the job at hand -- and to say that the UN is incompetent and incapable of bringing peaces to the region.
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we agree as long as the US has a veto, the UN is incapable of bringing peace to the region.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at Mon Aug 7 10:10:52 2006 (DZbll)
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I agree with you on the sorry state of the UN. It has proved to be impotent and increasingly irrelevant to today's conflict's resolution. The world could have been spared the atrocities committed against innocent women and children has the UN had done its job.
On the other hand, you talk of finishing the job like it were some noble cause. The only thing the Israelis have succeeded to accomplish so far is murdering, intentionally I might add, close to 1000 civilians not to mention the complete destruction of the country of Lebanon.
Violence won't solve the problem. Peace and negotiations are the only viable solutions.
Posted by: Jack at Mon Aug 7 15:20:47 2006 (+cz/F)
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No, Ken, we don't agree on a single thing. I argue that the UN is incapable of bringing about any deal that would bring peace because of its bias against Israel and its survival.
You argue the UN is impotent because it cannot manage to get Hitler's job finished because the US is the one country which will always stand in its way.
And Jack, finishing the job IS a noble cause, just as finishing the job against Germany and Japan in 1945 was a noble cause. Israel was teh victim of an unprovoked attack by a terrorist group that Lebanon and the UN were to disarm following Israel's LAST withdrawal from Lebanon following an attack.
Personally, I believe Israel needs to establish a permanent security zone devoid of human life to accomplish the job. If Hezbollah will let the civilians leave, that is to be preferred -- but not one terrorist should be allowed to leave that zone while still breathing. Whatever it takes to accomplish that end is acceptable to me.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Mon Aug 7 15:51:29 2006 (WTL5m)
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I agree that hezbollah must be destroyed. Then the US and Israel need to attack Iran and kill their lunatic,hitler wanna be.
Posted by: dan at Mon Aug 7 16:41:07 2006 (Shzb1)
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"Terrorism", my friend, is the deliberate targeting of innocent civilians to achieve political gains. And that's exactly what the Israeli government is practicing. That definition , by the way, is according to our own state department.
You make it sound like Israel is fighting for its existence. And that's just not true. Israel is the fourth largest military in the world. A nuclear power that has fashioned itself into a ruthless killing machine. In fact, you can say that most countries have a military, Israel on the other hand is a military with a country. It's the safety and security of the other peoples of the region I fear for.
Actually, what's best for Israel is to stop the violence and make a serious attempt at peace, retreat from the territories it illegally occupies and fully integrate itself in the neighborhood. It could be a beacon of positive change for the whole region. That's the future. And it's coming. A united middle east that includes Israel. Just think of the possibilities of Israeli technology combined with Arab wealth. A third superpower that equals the US and Europe. A civil and developed world that can help solve world problems.
Posted by: Jack at Mon Aug 7 16:54:02 2006 (+cz/F)
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Dan -- I don't necessarily agree with attacking Iran, absent some military action against the US o Israel.
Jack -- Israel does not target civilians. You have them confused with Hezbollah. Its decision not to make use of its nukes makes that clear. And as far as your vision, it is no more possible than the unification of Nazi Germany and Israel.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Mon Aug 7 23:32:59 2006 (Phdzx)
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Israel is today's Hitler and Nazi Germany. The terrorist zionist mob that controls the government is committing atrocities ten times worse than the European holocaust. Their real objective is not peaceful coexistence as they claim but the complete domination and extermination of the indigenous population.
As to nukes, the israelis were able to inflict the worse damage on the civilian population of Lebanon and Palestine without them. I mean, serious war crimes of the most appalling criminal nature are committed and are going unprosecuted. Not to mention that their dungeons are filled with tens of thousands of women and children who are kidnapped hostages and political prisoners.
However, their are beacons of hope: social forces within the country of Israel who are helplessly demonstrating for peace. And those should be encouraged.
Posted by: Jack at Tue Aug 8 02:42:34 2006 (+cz/F)
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Actually, 90% of Israel supports the current defensive war. Those who do not merit execution for treason.
As for your comparison of Israel and nazi Germany, it is factually absurd and morally repulsive. There can be no comparison between the two on any terms -- scale, methodology, or ideology. A better comparison might be to the actions of the allies during WWII.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Tue Aug 8 11:27:55 2006 (swypc)
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In view of Iran's apparent schemes to gain supremacy over the whole area of the middle east by using the Arab-Israeli conflict to its advantage, Do you think that time has come for both Arabs and Israelis to solve their differences and unite against the Iranian threat? It seams a logical conclusion to me, but do you think it possible?
Posted by: Jack at Tue Aug 15 08:42:01 2006 (+cz/F)
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