1 I find this to somewhat unbelievable as your source is DUBIOUS at best. While not having ever worked for Target, my wife did, and was treated quite fairly. Which was a lot better than Wally World treated both of us when we worked for them. Overall you are there to do a job if your religion gets in the way: DO NOT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE FUCKING ASS ON THE WAY OUT!! Religion is a gateway psychosis.

2 Well, my profane little troll, let me help you out here. I read it at Schlussel , but here is the story from an MSM outlet for you. So much for your questions of fact. As for the rest, I find it a pitty, troll, that you have placed yourself in diametrical opposition to state and federal civil rights law on accommodation of religion in the work place – but then again, since when did liberals ever REALLY believe in religious liberty when it gets in the way of such things as the Left-Wing Sacrament of Abortion? And as for your “gateway psychosis” comment – a phrase that no where appears in psychological literature, by the way – thank you for showing yourself to be nothing less than a religious bigot and hate-monger. Hope you made sure you bought some gloves at target before you went to paint swastikas on the local synagogue – otherwise they may get your prints off the spray cans.

3 I'm afraid I have to side with the "profane little troll" in part. If I ran Target the policy would be simple. I am hiring you to sell the products in my store. If you cannot do that job - don't even bother applying. I would make the question part of the hiring process. My problem with this story is not with how the pharmacist was treated, but that the cashier who refuses to ring up a package of bacon isn't treated the same. If you can't or won't do the job you have been payed to do, I'm not going to pay you.

4 Stephen -- while I actually agree in part with what you are saying, the legal reality is that asking such a question would subject you to so much legal liability that you would not own your business for much longer. The attorney's fees and damages awarded the folks whose rights you violated under the relevant civil rights statutes would be sufficient to put you out of business. We can argue about whether that should be the case, but that is the current state of the law. Second, once there is a religious accommodation in place for one religious group, denying an identical accommodation to another religious group is clearly a case of illegal workplace discrimination.

5 If the law tells me I cannot refuse to hire someone because they refuse to do the job they are being hired for then the law is seriously wrong. If saying in an interview: "To be hired as a cashier/pharmacist etc. in this store you will be expected to sell to our customers any product that we carry in the store that they are legally allowed to purchase. Are you able to meet that obligation?" would get me sued then you're right. I would be out of business soon because I would have no choice but to shut it down and walk away.

6 So you read it @ the web site of a LAWYER, you do know what a lawyer is right? A PAID LIAR. So now that you know that you know why I found it dubious. Nevertheless, whether I find it dubious or not is rather unimportant, what is important is you are too fucking stupid to see the ironic juxtaposition of the word GATEWAY as in GATEWAY DRUG, to the phrase GATEWAY PSYCHOSIS, you are a teacher?? What degree mill granted you a diploma? Man, you are seriously fucking clueless. I pity the students that have you for a teacher. As Bugs would say : "What a maroon, what an imbessel"

7 And I also read it at the site of a major metropolitan newspaper. Little detail like that no doubt escape your sorry ass. Of course, it could just be that you lack the intellectual honesty to acknowledge you are wrong -- that would require that you have a little bit of manhood. For that matter, it would also require that you have an interest in the facts rather than spewing insults. And by the way, having spent time researching the term "gateway psychosis", what I discovered is that it was the throwaway line of a hack comedian which was later picked up by left-wing bigots to justify their disdain for religious believers -- after all, if we are all in the early stages of insanity, our words and views are irrelevant. It is a way of cloaking your bigotry in the guise of science, but it is no less bigoted and no less a lie from the standpoint of psychology. Interestingly enough, you now find it impossible to actually debate facts or law, so you now resort to nothing but insults. Who is clueless? Who is a moron? Who is an imbecile? Seems pretty clear that those labels apply to you, you nameless coward.

8 Stephen -- laws banning religious discrimination require that employers make reasonable accommodations of the religious beliefs and practices of employees -- whether that is permitting them their Sabbath off or minor re-shuffling of job duties -- provided it imposes no substantial burden upon the employer. In this case, the fact that they granted the accommodation for a period of time and grant a substantially similar accommodation to other employees of a different faith, Target is screwed.

9 You lose your right to "freedom of religion" the minute you try to inflict it on me. Sorry but Dave Foley is a hack comedian?? Obviously your too stupid to see it wasn't Bill Maher that said it, but rather that it was said on his show, so like I asked you last time what fucking degree mill did you buy your diploma from??

10 I haven't shopped at Target since they banned the Salvation Army.

11 Well, you troll, at least you have the integrity to admit it -- the only person who you believe has religious freedom is you. Anyone whose tries to live out their faith has no right to do so if you have to see it, hear it, or deal with it in any way. Your choice of the word "inflict" says everything about the depth of your bigotry and hatred. And given Foley's extensive work in comedy, I chose the term "hack comedian" intentionally. Unless, of course, the comment wasn't meant to be a funny one -- in which case I'd be forced to label him as "talentless religious bigot" and hate-monger". Interestingly enough, troll, you haven't seen fit to actually try to make an actual intellectual argument anywhere on this thread. As such, any comments about my intellectual ability or my academic background are rather amusing, as you have shown neither good character nor intellectual rigor in your comments.

12 I am well aware that the law says I must accommodate an employees religious beliefs. That intrusion upon my freedom is one of the reasons I choose not to run a business.

13 You continually display the reason the founders wanted freedom of religion in this nation, which if you had more than 1/2 a fucking retarded brain, you would realize also implies freedom from religion. Apparently my right to be free of your fucking religious bullshit & spew does not count. So fuck you and all the rest of the little fascist jeebus grovelers, if you shit for brains assholes would keep the nonsense proselytizing to and amongst yourselves we'd all get along so much better. I reiterate Religion is a gateway psychosis.

14 Interestingly enough, you provide nothing to show that your hateful, profane, bigoted view of religion and religious freedom is in concert with the views of the founders. I somehow doubt that you would find any of them (with the possible exception of Thomas Paine, and even that is a stretch) who would find themselves in agreement with with a single word you have written here. In fact, they would likely argue that your demand that "little fascist jeebus groveler" (and all of the founders would have qualified, with the possible exception of Paine) "keep the nonsense proselytizing to and amongst yourselves" to be not only in opposition to the notion of the free exercise of religion by a free people, but also contrary to the concept of freedom of speech. But let's try this one in reverse. Why don't all you keep your blaspheming, God-hating, self-righteous atheism to yourself? You know, demonstrate that you are capable of living according to your (ir)religious beliefs. By the way, you are quickly demonstrating that atheism would be a "gateway psychosis" if such a thing were recognized by mental health professionals. And clearly a part of that affliction would be a Tourette's-like inclination to uncontrollably spew profanity.

15 I am not sure if it is guilt, shame, or just a lack of confidence in their own belief system that drives people like this troll to be such a-holes. I't not so much that they don't believe in God, they do deeply and firmly. They are not actually atheists, they are anti-theists.

16 Ahhh so the dick head thinks I am an atheist, well shit for brains you would be wrong about that. At best I might be considered agnostic, I just get sick of listening to the rest of you religious fucktards misrepresent the founders, they were DEISTS at best, and several, most notably Ben Franklin even doubted the divinity of Hey Zeus. Fucking religious scumbuckets.

17 Well, it seems pretty clear that your full-blown psychosis is in full gear. While there is ambiguous evidence that some founders might well have been deists, it is also quite clear that others were certainly committed Christians with a very orthodox faith in Christ. Even those quasi-deists professed faith in Jesus from time to time. And I find it interesting how you cannot keep your blaspheming, God-hating, self-righteous anti-theism (THANKS, STEPHEN) to yourself despite the fact that you insist that there is some sort of absolute right to be free of anyone else's religion. I guess I tagged you right earlier -- the only person you believe has religious freedom is you!

18 You are the only one I bother to respond to because your goat is so easily gotten, otherwise since a vast majority of religious folk do not try to force their belief system down our throats, I leave alone. You seem to forget the founders were the sons and grandsons of people that came from a nation where religion was used as a test of loyalty to the crown. Your ever consistent bleating about your beliefs make mockery of what the founders intended, they clearly wanted no parts of a government sponsored religion, otherwise why is the first clause of the first amendment "CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW". You allegedly already know this despite buying a diploma from a degree mill, then again, perhaps you really are as fucking stupid as I think.

19 Let's see, you ignorant troll, how absurd your last comment was. 1) Funny, I didn't try to force anything down anyone's throat. i merely commented upon a religious discrimination case that has been filed in a federal court. As an American citizen, I am still allowed to comment upon the workings of the courts and the cases therein, aren't I? Or does my religious faith make me a second-class citizen in your eyes, unworthy to participate in or even hold opinions upon my matters political and governmental? 2) As far as allegedly "forcing [my] belief system down [your] throats", I'm curious how I did that. I posted something on an internet blog, that is true, but no one forced you to come read it, nor did anyone require you to respond. It seems, rather, that you are forcing your presence and your blaspheming, God-hating, self-righteous anti-theism on me. Quite hypocritical, it would appear. Unless, of course, your notion of religious freedom allows you -- and only you -- to inflict YOUR beliefs on others, in which case you deny the freedom to others that you claim for yourself. 3) Certainly what you say is true about England -- and I've nowhere argued anything different. What i did argue was that, as per one John Adams, our system was designed for a people who were rooted in religion and morality. Got a problem with that? Take it up with him. And I did also argue that the founders were, at some level, Christian in their outlook. But no where in their writings or speeches is there any indication that America was to be a nation in which religious speech in the public square was forbidden, or that values drawn from religious belief are unfit for public policy. Indeed, their beliefs were quite the opposite. 4) Nowhere, anywhere, have I called for government-sponsored religion. Indeed, I would gladly use my rights under the Second Amendment to shoot down the tyrant who sought to impose such a thing. My guess -- it will be an anti-theist like you who gets my bullet. 5) Since you seem to make so much of intellectual credentials, why don't you disclose yours.

20 Well since your making the same point with lines 1&2 I'll answer them as one. You and those of your fucking ilk try to force your bullshit on the rest of us EACH AND EVERY TIME YOU WANT TO PLACE A MANGER ON THE MUNICIPAL HALL LAWN, OR POST THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IN A COURT HOUSE ASSHOLE!!! See those "displays" are paid for with EVERYONE'S tax dollars, and those that may not believe your stupid shit, may be offended by it. That should also answer point #4. As to #3 I begin by offering these quotes starting with one from; Benjamin Franklin: "AS TO JESUS OF NAZARETH, MY OPINION OF WHOM YOU PARTICULARLY DESIRE, I THINK THE SYSTEM OF MORALS AND HIS RELIGION, AS HE LEFT THEM TO US, THE BEST THE WORLD EVER SAW OR IS LIKELY TO SEE; BUT I APPREHEND IT HAS RECEIVED VARIOUS CORRUPT CHANGES, AND I HAVE, WITH MOST OF THE PRESENT DISSENTERS IN ENGLAND, SOME DOUBTS AS TO HIS DIVINITY; THO' IT IS A QUESTION I DO NOT DOGMATIZE UPON, HAVING NEVER STUDIED IT, AND I THINK IT NEEDLESS TO BUSY MYSELF WITH IT NOW, WHEN I EXPECT SOON AN OPPORTUNITY OF KNOWING THE TRUTH WITH LESS TROUBLE." Please read the bold portions carefully you schmuck. George Washington: "THE UNITED STATES IS IN NO SENSE FOUNDED UPON THE CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE" Thomas Jefferson: "I DO NOT FIND IN ORTHODOX CHRISTIANITY ONE REDEEMING FEATURE" Thomas Paine: "ALL NATIONAL INSTITUTIONS OF CHURCHES, WHETHER JEWISH, CHRISTIAN OR TURKISH, APPEAR TO ME NO OTHER THAN HUMAN INVENTIONS, SET UP TO TERRIFY AND ENSLAVE MANKIND, AND MONOPOLIZE POWER AND PROFIT." Jefferson Again: "IT DOES ME NO INJURY FOR MY NEIGHBOR TO SAY THERE ARE TWENTY GODS OR NO GOD. IT NEITHER PICKS MY POCKET NOR BREAKS MY LEG" Thom Paine again: "I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE CREED PROFESSED BY THE JEWISH CHURCH, BY THE ROMAN CHURCH, BY THE GREEK CHURCH, BY THE TURKISH CHURCH, BY THE PROTESTANT CHURCH, NOR BY ANY CHURCH THAT I KNOW OF. MY OWN MIND IS MY OWN CHURCH." Lastly not a founder, Abraham Lincoln: "THE BIBLE IS NOT MY BOOK, AND CHRISTIANITY IS NOT MY RELIGION. I COULD NEVER GIVE ASSENT TO THE LONG, COMPLICATED STATEMENTS OF CHRISTIAN DOGMA" As to my credentials I think they do not matter as I do not claim to be an allegedly college educated teacher, that you loathsome fat disingenuous fuck would be you.

21 1) And again, you ignorant troll, I've not tried to put up a manger or the ten commandments -- and yet you accuse me of trying to force my beliefs on you. In other words, you are a liar. All I've done is comment on a current court case. (By the way -- did you know that many of those nativity scened are privately funded and erected, and therefore cost taxpayers not one penny?) 2) On the other hand, YOU HAVE come to my website and attempted to shove your blaspheming, God-hating, self-righteous anti-theism on me. Who is attempting to shove what down whose throat? 3) Some quotes for you: Benjamin Franklin: "History will also afford the frequent opportunities of showing the necessity of a public religion, from its usefulness to the public; the advantage of a religious character among private persons; the mischiefs of superstition. and the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern." George Washington: "To the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian" John Adams: "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." Thomas Jefferson: “Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern which have come under my observation, none appears to me so pure as that of Jesus.” AND "...I am a REAL CHRISTIAN, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus..." Abraham Lincoln: "Intelligence, patriotism, Christianity, and a firm reliance on him who has never yet forsaken this favored land, are still competent to adjust in the best way all our present difficulty." I could go on and present you with the views of other founders, but I don't think that they would satisfy you in any real sense, as you don't particularly appear to have anything approaching an open mind on the subject. Oh, and by the way, the quote you attribute to George Washington is not, in fact, from George Washington. It is, indeed, from a section of a translation of a treaty that was presented for ratification, but which is missing from both the Arabic and definitive Italian texts of the treaty. As such, it appears to be a forgery inserted by a translator. You might consider doing some research on these treaties with the Barbary pirates. 4) Your response to #4 makes no sense. 5) In other words, you are simply uneducated and ignorant -- and wrong as to your understanding of History.

22 You'll note, troll, that I don't even attempt to refute you on Paine, whose blaspheming, God-hating, self-righteous anti-theism is, like yours, well-documented.

23 O.K. shit for brains tell Gerard Thomas Straub he has the Washington quote wrong. I think I will respect his research a bit more than yours. The quote is from his Book "Salvation For Sale", which is a former insiders look at the troubling ministry of Pat Robertson. As to my education, obviously my junior college credentials are not up to yours, but at least I paid fucking attention in my history classes, which was my minor. So here is a heart-felt MERRY FUCK YOU to you and all the seasonal hypocrites that will crawl out from under your rocks in the next two weeks. As for your Thom Paine comment you ever consider that he was the only founder with enough balls to not speak from both fucking sides of his mouth. I know all the pro Hey Zeus comments from the rest of them, but it seems to me they were just as guilty of pandering as the modern political slime are.

24 Oh, dear -- your open-admission community college associates degree leaves me trembling in fear. Not. And the fact that the one book you have read makes such an egregious error speaks volumes about your literacy and intellectual rigor. Let's help you out with some information that actually backs my assertion up, regarding the Treaty of Tripoli and the Barlow translation of Article 11. And there are multiple ways of understanding the "Christian Nation" language, only the most outlandish of which requires one to assert (as you seem to) that the participation of Christians in politics and government is somehow illegitimate. And let me point a couple of things out with regard to Mr. Paine. First, he never held a position in either of the Continental Congresses, nor in the Constitutional Convention, nor in American government under either the Articles or the Constitution. To make his views dispositive regarding the nature of American government is therefore somewhat disingenuous. Second, Paine's approach to religion was rejected by such founders as Franklin, Sam Adams, John Adams, Patrick Henry, William Paterson, John Jay, Benjamin Rush, Charles Carroll and John Witherspoon. Hardly sounds like he was representative of the Founders as a group, does it? Oh, and by the way, I won't get into the intellectual dishonesty of rejecting quotes you disagree with as not representative of the speaker's beliefs while insisting that the words of the same individuals that support your position are to be taken (dare I say it) as Gospel-truth. I guess you'll just say anything in the interest of shoving your blaspheming, God-hating, self-righteous anti-theism down the throats of a nation that is not and never has been the rigidly secular nation you want it to be.