If a Muslim suffers even the most incidental slight, we have cries about hate crimes. If someone fails to show sufficient deference to the Koran, there are riots in the streets of the Muslim world.
Dulal Sarkar, 35, was attacked as he returned home from discussing his faith with local villagers, reported Compass Direct, which tracks incidents of Christian persecution. One source later identified the assailants as a group of 10 local Muslim extremists. After reporting the incident, SarkurÂ’s wife, mother and five children have been forced to move from place to place in fear for their lives.
According to local Christians, three arrests have been made, but the remaining seven alleged attackers, who reportedly have ties to the Jamaat-e-Islami political party, are still at large. They fear the political influence of Jamaat-e-Islami may prevent the case from going to court, Compass Direct reported.
Meanwhile, SarkurÂ’s widow has asked a Christian orphanage to take three of their five children because she cannot afford to support them.
The incident is the second beheading in a year, the news service said. Abdul Gani, a prominent Christian and physician, reportedly was decapitated by a gang in the district of Jamalpur as he returned home from work in September 2004. Gani was a counsel member of the Bangladesh Baptist Fellowship.
In 2003 another Christian leader was murdered by a group of eight men who attacked him in his home. Christian evangelist Hridoy Roy was stabbed repeatedly after being tied “crucifixion syle” to his bed. Roy was known for showing the Jesus film and others about the life of Christ. Muslim neighbors reportedly had warned him to stop.
Where is the international outrage? Oh, that’s right – these are just dead Christians, whose very existence offended the Muslims among whom they lived. It is our place to understand the pain and hurt caused to Islamists by these people who dared to attempt to exercise the human right of religious freedom.
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More and more I am disgusted by the media. In college I minored in Middle Eastern politics, and knew many Muslims. They were to a person honest, gracious, and good people. They would have been horrified by this.
That said; I am seeing more and more evidence that too many muslims listen to evil men who twist religion into what they want it to be.
This is just pathetic.
Sub
Posted by: Subjugator at Wed Jun 8 14:53:00 2005 (r/FBF)
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I might show a little more outrage if these Muslim represented me as the soldiers and prison guards do.
That said; I am seeing more and more evidence that too many muslims listen to evil men who twist religion into what they want it to be.
I'm sorry, but I just had to comment on this statement. The irony (not necessarily comign from YOU but coming from a modern US christian) is incredible.
Posted by: dolphin at Thu Jun 9 04:27:36 2005 (fgsGh)
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So let me get this straight -- murder isn't nearly as big a deal as disrespect for a book.
Therefore, if I suggest that the murder of Matthew Shepard isn't nearly as important as important a the desecration of a crucifix by Serrano using government funds, you will not see any problem with my statement.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu Jun 9 05:43:35 2005 (DTBYN)
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Um...Dolphin? What's wrong with me saying that?
I know what true Islam is. I had a LOT of Muslim friends in college. I saw peaceful discourse, respect toward me, my religion, and even Jesus Christ...I saw people who did want change and wanted 'Palestine', but didn't want to kill anyone to get it. They understood the position of the Jews and understood why the Jews felt they need Israel. They wanted a peaceful solution.
I also saw charity, hard work, respect, hospitality (WOW the hospitality...like you'd never imagine!), and genuine good will and people that were glad to see me.
What I see all too often these days are that many youngsters in the mideast are angry at us for something we've done, and channel their anger into a twisted version of Islam that preaches hate and murder as being gateways to heaven.
Sorry if that doesn't fit with what you expected of me. While I don't think Islam is the one true religion, I think that they are making an honest effort to follow God's word, and honor their efforts to do so. All good work in the name of God honors Him well.
Sub
Posted by: Subjugator at Thu Jun 9 05:58:54 2005 (lkCzp)
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Therefore, if I suggest that the murder of Matthew Shepard isn't nearly as important as important a the desecration of a crucifix by Serrano using government funds, you will not see any problem with my statement.
Uhh... who said anything about importance? All lives are important to me, and you very well might not consider Matthew Shepard's life important but that's between you and your God. My point is that bad behavior by "bad" people isn't news. Bad behavior by people are supposed to be good is. Is it news when the sun comes up each morning? No because it's expected. Does that mean it's not important? Of course not.
Sub,
I said I wasn't talking about you in particular. There's just irony in the statement due to the fact that the religous right uses a twisted view of the Christianity to justify bombing abortion clinics and gay clubs, etc.
Posted by: dolphin at Thu Jun 9 06:41:15 2005 (fgsGh)
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Dolphin,
Ahh...I thought you meant me, but not me in particular.
I loathe the jerks that use Christianity as a tool of violence. Jesus grew angry and used violence when appropriate, but I do not imagine him blowing up abortion clinics.
I hate when people that profess to agree with me act like imbeciles. I say, "I am against gun control." and they say, "Yeah! And let's kill fags and abortion doctors!"...and then people associate me with them. I don't blame them for making the connection (though I'd like a chance to disassociate myself).
...but I hate it when jerks agree with me on controversial issues.
Bartleby
Posted by: Subjugator at Thu Jun 9 08:53:12 2005 (lkCzp)
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Same here, Subjugator. That's why I defended the moderate Muslims from the fanatic extremists like RWR and McWeenie.
R-
Posted by: Me is the Ridor at Thu Jun 9 13:37:14 2005 (ODDFf)
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Said it before, and I repeat it here. Religion (organized religion that is) is for imbeciles. So sorry I am, to use your favorite pejorative, "a bigot". Yeah right you buffoon, if I was really a religious bigot, you sure as hell would have read about me assaulting said imbeciles by now, but nooooooooooooo I say live and let live as long as the imbeciles keep their stupidity to themselves. I do not need any "belief system" as a mental crutch.
Posted by: Bubba Bo Bob Brain at Thu Jun 9 13:43:11 2005 (aHbua)
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"fanatic extremist"
How, pray tell, do you reach that conclusion?
Oh, that's right -- I'm a conservative Christian hearing guy who doesn't engage in sex with other men. That puts me "outside the mainstream."
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu Jun 9 15:32:02 2005 (wfdL5)
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Gee -- you sound like that idiot professor from New York.
I find it interesting that you cannot accept the simple point that folks who disagree with you are simply wrong, and not metally/morally defective. That is the problem with the contemporary version of liberalism -- it is so hung up on "tolerance" of "diverse" views that it cannot tolerate any views that disagree with it.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu Jun 9 15:37:53 2005 (wfdL5)
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RWR, I empathize with you on that point.
Posted by: mcconnell at Thu Jun 9 17:25:11 2005 (AgdKN)
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It's funny how "R" defend moderate Muslims (Islamic) when they are equally, if not more, against gay marriage, homosexuality, and the likes. Homosexuality is in fact prohibited in Islam.
When a "moderate" Muslim condemns homosexuality - the outrage by UK homosexuals.
http://www.blink.org. uk /pdescription.asp?key=4646&grp=21&cat=94
And yet, "R" didn't define exactly what a "moderate" suppose to mean.
http://dailyablution . blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/2004/07/muslim_moderati.html
"R", you're so full of it, it's frightening.
Posted by: mcconnell at Fri Jun 10 03:35:18 2005 (zudZk)
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I find it interesting that you cannot accept the simple point that folks who disagree with you are simply wrong
I find it interesting that you cannot accept the simple point that folks who disagree with you are simply wrong, not terrorists (just ask mcconnel).
That is the problem with the contemporary version of liberalismI
That is the problem with the contemporary version of conservatism.
Oh and the Muslims are the ones trying to take away our rights in this country. I full support anybody's right to hate me, just not to do anythign about it.
Posted by: dolphin at Fri Jun 10 04:02:45 2005 (fgsGh)
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Dolphin, actually, I just note the delicious irony here. Not disagreement. Please, don't get the two mixed up.
Posted by: mcconnell at Fri Jun 10 04:29:49 2005 (LmcbS)
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And the irony even more delicious with "R's" comment when he wants to "defend" the “moderate” Muslims:
"RWR, GOOD! About time the religions are put in the closet ... permanently."
http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/086019.php
Posted by: mcconnell at Fri Jun 10 05:12:47 2005 (LmcbS)
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I agree that Muslim terrorists are trying to hurt our freedoms, and oppose them with pen and sword whenever possible.
The big problem that I see with Islam these days is that more and more it's moving toward having a default of terrorism.
It makes me sick.
Sub
Posted by: Subjugator at Fri Jun 10 07:12:09 2005 (lkCzp)
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It's even more scarier when Liberals hold Muslims high on a pedestal. Either they are blind to what is going on in the Islamic world when it comes to freedom of choice without fear of reprisal, or they don't care and would rather further there agenda anyway possible....including sleeping with the enemy (tongue-in-cheek, of course).
Posted by: mcconnell at Fri Jun 10 08:03:21 2005 (LmcbS)
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dolphin -- I don't say folks who disagree with me are terrorists -- most aren't. Those who clearly put the interests of the terrorists above the interests of the US are, however, reasonably classified as terrorist supporters.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Fri Jun 10 10:12:32 2005 (GRVNH)
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And they all get themselves into a lather over that? Well, they ARE terrorists using their kiddies as home-made bombs.
Posted by: mcconnell at Fri Jun 10 12:07:25 2005 (LmcbS)
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