February 09, 2006

Can You Say “DUH!!!”

Are these folks completely clueless about the church fires in Alabama?

Four churches in Pickens, Greene and Sumter counties burned early Tuesday, two of which were destroyed. Five churches burned in Bibb County, about 60 miles from Tuesday's fires; three of them were destroyed.
Austin Banks of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the federal agency that investigates arson, said there were “a lot of common things involved in all the fires” that point to the suspects targeting religion, although he declined to go into detail about the evidence.

Residents and law enforcement officials confirmed that fires at some of the churches started at the pulpit. They also said church doors had been kicked in.
Banks did not say the suspects were targeting the Baptist faith, the predominant denomination in the region.

He said it does not look like there's a racial motivation in the burnings. The four churches that burned Tuesday have black congregations, but only one of the five Bibb County churches was predominantly black.

You donÂ’t suppose it could be hatred of Christians, do you? After all, all the targets are Christian churches, and appear centered on the pulpit.

But drawing such a conclusion might require a conclusion that we have hate crimes here. Selwyn Duke has this to say on the matter.

Nine Baptist churches, with both black and white congregations, have been burned in a relatively small geographical area within a very narrow time-frame. Okay, the fact that they are all Baptist may not necessarily be significant since itÂ’s the dominant denomination in that area. In other words, it would not require too great a statistical fluke to target nine churches in these counties and happen upon only Baptist ones. Although it should give one pause for thought.

However, to the best of my knowledge, even in the Bible Belt, churches constitute only a very small percentage of the buildings. I suspect that Alabamans have also built schools, stores of various kinds, municipal buildings, residences, offices, barns, warehouses, restaurants and lots of other types of structures. Thus, while IÂ’m no mathematician, I think there are pretty long odds against randomly targeting nine buildings and happening upon only churches. If Morris Dees and company canÂ’t grasp this, they surely didnÂ’t amass their organizationÂ’s $120 million fortune through wagering. Save incense and decorative candles, you donÂ’t burn things you like. This was a hateful act. So, SPLC, donÂ’t pour gasoline down my back and tell me itÂ’s raininÂ’.

Next, could you imagine the reaction if nine synagogues or mosques had been thus burned? The monolithic mainstream media would elevate the story to prominence and exhaust themselves pontificating about how dreadful these hate-crimes were. And the posturing by public officials, oh, the posturing, it would be intense enough to induce backache.

As for this story, thereÂ’s nothing for the media to glom on to. If only black churches were in the crosshairs, there would be the white bigotry angle. The media canÂ’t get enough of that. But the fact that theyÂ’re all Christian? Please! Such concerns arenÂ’t in their programmingÂ… in either sense of the word.

So forgive me for saying it, but the lack of interest in the bias-crime angle seems based upon the bias of law-enforcement and the media, who cannot fathom that Christians might be targeted by those who hate them – Muslims, Satanists, secularists, or socialists – and that those crimes are every bit as deserving of serious condemnation as those committed by cross-burning, sheet-wearing, mouth-breathing racists. And all that is needed for this to be recognized is a paradigm-shift on the part of our nation’s opinion leaders.

Posted by: Greg at 10:39 AM | Comments (11) | Add Comment
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1 Liberal response to this is deafening.. This Screams of Hate Crimes, and yet liberals are quiet over it. I am totally against Hate Crimes legislation, as to me, a crime is a crime, but since liberals want it, this would be their best chance to show they want it for everyone, not their pet interest groups. Problem is, liberals don't care for Christians, because Christianity and liberalism can not go hand in hand. So it is ok to hate Christians, but everyone else it is considered a hate crime, in liberals eyes.. I have debated so many of them, and they all have the same thing to say, you Christian fanatic you have no tolerance for anyone.. Kind of the pot calling the kettle black..

Posted by: Scubachris at Fri Feb 10 02:41:17 2006 (AktpP)

2 I hope they catch whoever is doing this, and prosecute them fully. It is not okay to hate Christians, and I know of no liberal that condones vandalism to a Baptist church. I don't know what kind of outcry you're seeking - what can I say or do that would help the situation?

Posted by: Dan at Fri Feb 10 04:45:04 2006 (y9xzG)

3 As the late Mohandas K Ghandi so eloquently said: "Jesus, I like Jesus, it's Christians I have a problem with, for they are so unchrist-like" Take yer religious whining and stuff it you buffoon.

Posted by: Fubar at Fri Feb 10 11:06:43 2006 (Sfcu+)

4 I don't call for an outcry -- but i wish that the notion of a bias crime being committed against Christians when a whole bunch of churches are burned would be given the same credence as is given the torching of one synagogue or mosque.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Fri Feb 10 13:53:49 2006 (xoFJ2)

5 Fubar -- sorry to see you back. Keep it clean or I'll arange for another extended vacation.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Fri Feb 10 14:01:24 2006 (xoFJ2)

6 Oh, and by the way, Fubar, since i am offended based pon your insult to my religion, is it acceptable to threaten your life and to travel to the library from which you post to burn it to the ground? And since you attribute the quote o a Hindu, may I go after Hindu temples and Indian diplomatic posts like members of less civilized faiths do?

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Fri Feb 10 14:13:12 2006 (WRa0i)

7 Stuff happens to synagogues everyday, and its not national news. That's not to equate burning a church with painting an anti-semitic slogan, but I think your expectation of nightly network coverage and weekly magazine covers is a little over-excited.

Posted by: Dan at Fri Feb 10 15:25:39 2006 (aSKj6)

8 Again, you set up a strawman that does not represent my position. If one mosque or synagogue is torched or vandalized, it is treated as a bias crime. Why not treat a related series of attacks on Christian churches the same way? Why go out of the way to AVOID the notion that it is a bias crime?

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Fri Feb 10 15:57:39 2006 (WRa0i)

9 What in the heck are you talking about? The quotation you include in your post mentions that law enforcement is looking at the religious angle. The sub-headline on the article you cite is "ATF: Religion may be target". That's almost all the article talks about. In what parallel universe is anyone AVOIDING the notion that it is a bias crime??

Posted by: Dan at Sat Feb 11 02:46:29 2006 (aSKj6)

10 The problem is that in this case, where there is an obvious motivation based upon bias, that angle is not being vigorously pursued or covered -- and statements are being made to minimize that presumption. On the other hand, crimes of the sort I mention are presumed to be bias crimes.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sat Feb 11 03:16:03 2006 (rme0q)

11 Kidding, right? You surely are not claiming any knowledge about what the police are pursuing based upon an article in USA Today. Do you think the police always share all the leads they are in the process of tracking down? I'm glad you're not in law enforcement.

Posted by: Dan at Sat Feb 11 10:19:55 2006 (aSKj6)

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