June 26, 2007

Ron Paul Swings Round The Bend

Well, this one is loony even for Ron Paul.

New Hampshire's convicted tax evaders Ed and Elaine Brown have gained a new supporter: presidential hopeful Ron Paul.

In an interview with RogueGovernment.com, the Texas congressman compares the Browns to Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Junior. He says the Browns are suffering like those leaders.

The Browns are holed up in their Plainfield, New Hampshire home and have threatened violence against federal officials if marshals come to arrest them. They were convicted of an elaborate scheme to hide millions of dollars in income. Their protest has become a rallying cry for anti-tax activists and militia members.

So now it appears that the renegade Republican has sided with convicted felons who threaten to murder law enforcement officials who attempt to take them into custody. This is support for terrorism by any other name -- if true.

However, Ron Paul denies that it is true.

Texas Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul said he did not compare a New Hampshire couple who refuses to pay taxes with Ghandi.

On Fox News Channel today, Paul said he doesn't know much about the case of Ed and Elaine Brown on Plainfield, N.H. but that he, like Ghandi, doesn't believe in violence to protest wrongs and it has appeared that the Browns have chosen another path.

I've not seen the interview, but I wouldn't be surprised if the initial report is true. After all, the site with the original interview describes it as follows.

Lee Rogers interviews Congressman and Presidential candidate Ron Paul about a myriad of issues in this interview. Lee discusses the following topics with Dr. Paul in this half hour interview.

Abolishing the Federal Reserve and the IRS, the restoration of honest money, the plunge protection team, the government standoff with Ed and Elaine Brown over the income tax, the broken health care system, abolishing big government agencies, the CIA/NSA, global government, the New World Order, the North American Union, semi-secretive organizations like the Council on Foreign Relations, American imperialism around the world, the billion dollar embassy being built in Iraq, the fraud of the global war on terror, illegal immigration, the move to tax and regulate the Internet by the establishment, the coming world ID system, the move towards fascism in America, the possibility of martial law being declared in the United States, the prospects of a new independent investigation into the attacks of 9/11 as well as the prospect of impeaching George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

In other words, Paul is associating with the radical fringe of the conspiracy movement. I think giving the interview to this fellow should be reason enough to disqualify Ron Paul from any serious consideration as a candidate -- especially given that it is incredibly easy to believe that the initial press report is true. After all, given the fact that Ron Paul gives aid and comfort to 9/11 conspiracy theorists and Truthers, would you really be all that surprised if he did come out in support of the Browns?

Fortunately, we at the national level have other choices besides Ron Paul. And in Texas CD14, GOP primary voters have the opportunity to replace Paul with Friendswood City Counncilman Chris Peden.

Posted by: Greg at 03:42 PM | Comments (20) | Add Comment
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1 I've not seen the interview, but I wouldn't be surprised if the initial report is true.

Why would you write a blog post on this topic without first taking 10 minutes to YouTube the interview?

Posted by: Zydeco at Tue Jun 26 20:17:29 2007 (jP57f)

2 Its funny that the IRS can convict someone without even doing it in court. But thats not the point... civil disobedience is a forum of decent, I'm not saying they should not arrest them. But saying that if they come close they will open fire, could be a bit far.

I think Ed and Elaine Brown are doing this because this is the best way they have thought of to fight the IRS witch they believe is not just nor legal.

Posted by: Gabe at Tue Jun 26 22:29:59 2007 (enHhX)

3 Zydeco -- because I couldn't get the interview to download due to bandwidth issues (on my end -- I can't wait until I change ISPs next week). However, I presented both sides of the issue to my readers, and directed them to the site where the interview is available.

And Gabe -- Edd and Elaine Brown were convicted in a federal court, and each was sentenced to over 5 years in prison. Edd Brown has a history of criminal violence unrelated to this case. If you want to support these violent felons, feel free to do so -- but if you do, why don't you march on down to the local penitentiary and demand the release of all the rapists and murderers, while you are at it.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Wed Jun 27 01:56:48 2007 (ya687)

4
CFR monkeys
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no brains, talent, or ethics

Posted by: Haiku Dude at Wed Jun 27 02:47:13 2007 (uG7U5)

5 You wrote yourself "On Fox News Channel today, Paul said he doesn't know much about the case of Ed and Elaine Brown on Plainfield, N.H. but that he, like Ghandi, doesn't believe in violence to protest wrongs and it has appeared that the Browns have chosen another path."
The ap has now issued a correction to the story. I like how you use the words "aid and comfort" the same words in the constition for treason. Just watch and you will soon see what happens when you dont pay the goverment its "protection" money.

Posted by: ray at Wed Jun 27 03:25:28 2007 (giyLS)

6 Rest assured, Ray, that I picked those words intentionally -- after all, the "Truthers" and their ilk regularly side with the terrorists against the American government and American people.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Wed Jun 27 03:50:14 2007 (r+Ftq)

7 Ron Paul -- proof that even a Looney Tunes character can be elected to Congress.

Posted by: Carl at Wed Jun 27 05:43:53 2007 (xovYK)

8 There's a difference between hating and being suspicious of your government, and believing in / supporting terrorists. I'm no truther, but anyone who says I have to love my Federal Government is hopelessly naive and completely blind to all the evil that it does. Come on folks - take off the jackboots, and let's start moving away from the police state.

Posted by: bret at Wed Jun 27 05:54:42 2007 (Z9WUn)

9 Direct, un-apportioned taxes were not allowed under the original constitution. The legality of the 16th amendment is questionable and no one is answering the questions.

Our founding fathers opposed central banks. Now all of the money raised from the income tax goes to paying off the *interest* on the federal debt. The Federal Reserve is a private for-profit corporation.

Posted by: mike at Wed Jun 27 06:16:43 2007 (FtDXY)

10 It is a shame that reporter Margot Sanger-Katz, who hangs out with the others at the Brown property, did absolutely NO research on this before she sensationally and erroneously claimed that Ron Paul was a 'supporter' of the Browns on her Concord Monitor blog when he had never even heard of them.

Ron had absolutely NO idea who the Browns were before being asked this question on television the other day about the IRS and such. He is no supporter of their tactics, or of non-payment of taxes. He is however, like Steve Forbes and other politicians before him, an advocate of getting rid of the IRS.

The libelous AP picked up and embellished the story, then it went out everywhere.

You really should not be perpetuating a story that draws inferences that should not be drawn.

Ron is the most respected Congressman on the hill -- what makes you think he'd support violence at this point in time? It is ludicrous.

Katz has had to print a retraction and the AP article is being pulled from wherever it appears, since it was unresearched and unverified.

http://www.yourconcord.com/primaryblog/capital_beat_extra_ron_paul_on_the_browns

You would be wise to do the same.

Posted by: NH at Wed Jun 27 08:33:18 2007 (unNmM)

11 Ah now that I've read further down I see you are pushing an opponent of Ron's in the Congressional race. Now I see the reason for your smear job.

Smearing Ron, the most respected man in Washington, will not get your candidate any traction in Texas...

Posted by: NH at Wed Jun 27 08:47:50 2007 (unNmM)

12 I find it amusing to be told that I don't know what will fly in Texas -- especially given that I am currently sitting 1 1/2 miles from Ron Paul's congressional district, where I know there are hordes of Republicans chomping at the bit to get rid of him.

And if linking to a candidate's website constitutes "pushing" that candidate, would you also argue that I am "pushing" roguegovernment.com by linking to the interview?

Posted by: RhymesWithRight at Wed Jun 27 08:58:42 2007 (rtzPv)

13 Are these different than the "hordes" of voters that repeatedly re-elected Dr. Paul with comfortable margins? I think not, yet I agree that Dr. Paul is probably serving his last term in congress.

There's a lot of power in the national republican party structure. Paul's bid for the presidency has pissed them off. Look for no less than 10 "candidates" in the next congressional primary. It's a nefarious tactic that has served the party well in the the past when they have seen fit to discipline those who dare to oppose the party.

Ron Paul thinks additional 9-11 investigation and disclosure would be good...

...Party Spin: Ron Paul thinks 9-11 was an inside job

Ron Paul praises Gandhi for peaceful civil disobedience, urges consideration of consequences for those who choose to disobey...

...Party Spin: Ron Paul marches in lock step with nutjob tax evaders.

He hasn't made a dent in the official polls, and the MSM is still faithfully ignoring him. But it's pretty clear to me that he's got more than a couple of neocon republicans seriously worried.

It should be interesting to see his campaign contribution disclosures. If his reportings are not suppressed by the neocon spinners, that is...

Posted by: bob at Thu Jun 28 09:11:10 2007 (yDIf3)

14 Actually, Bob, that would be the same voters -- folks who have tolerated his idiosyncrasies because we agree with 75-80% of what he of what he does. These would be the same folks, though, who find his recent statements and actions -- and those of his "true believer" supporters -- embarrassing and unacceptable and who also recognize that if Ron Paul wants to be president that he considers CD14 to be a consolation prize. As a result, they want someone else to fill that congressional seat -- someone who won't embarrass them and who really wants to represent the district.

Ron Paul's repeated statements about 9/11 make it clear that he is with the nutjobs on the issue. Similarly, his viewing convicted felons who threaten to kill law enforcement officers as the equivalent of Gandhi is, dare I suggest, more than a little bit over the top.

Ultimately, though, Ron Paul is known by the company he keeps -- and that company drags his reputation down big time.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu Jun 28 10:43:36 2007 (9TSMO)

15 By the way, Bob -- If Ron Paul's support were as deep as you claim it is, it wouldn't matter if there were 100 candidates running in the primary, because he would sweep them all. Now if you consider the voters having a choice at primary time a "nefarious tactic", then I suggest that you really don't believe in the right of the people to govern themselves -- or perhaps you believe that Ron Paul has a divine right to be king congressman in CD14.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu Jun 28 10:47:50 2007 (9TSMO)

16 Gee Greg, don't get so uptight. It's not like he could win the nomination or anything!

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