March 17, 2006

Good Intentions, Bad Idea, Wrong Conclusions

I donÂ’t blame these guys for seeking to pass a law setting out specific guidelines for surveillance of foreign communications that involve an Americans. I just find the idea to be a flawed, especially because of the conclusion that some will draw from it.

The Bush administration could continue its policy of spying on targeted Americans without obtaining warrants, but only if it justifies the action to a small group of lawmakers, under legislation introduced yesterday by key Republican senators.

The four senators hope to settle the debate over National Security Agency eavesdropping on international communications involving Americans when one of the parties is suspected of terrorist ties. President Bush prompted a months-long uproar when he said that constitutional powers absolve him of the need to seek warrants in such cases, even though the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act requires warrants for domestic wiretaps.

The program, begun in 2001, was first publicized late last year.

The bill would allow the NSA to eavesdrop, without a warrant, for up to 45 days per case, at which point the Justice Department would have three options. It could drop the surveillance, seek a warrant from FISA's court, or convince a handful of House and Senate members that although there is insufficient evidence for a warrant, continued surveillance "is necessary to protect the United States," according to a summary the four sponsors provided yesterday.

They are Mike DeWine (Ohio), Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.), Chuck Hagel (Neb.) and Olympia J. Snowe (Maine).

I think the motive is good – these Senators want to settle the issue once and for all. Unfortunately, this bill does not accomplish that end – in fact, it muddies the waters even further.

First, as IÂ’ve already pointed out, Congress lacks the authority to prevent such surveillance, as the Constitution grants the President the inherent power to conduct it to protect national security. Nothing Congress does can limit that power, any more than the President can issue an executive order limiting the power of Congress to consider certain legislation.

Second, the legislation could be interpreted by partisans opposed to the President (or the security of the United States) to be a concession that the current program is illegal. IÂ’ve already seen gleeful Leftists make exactly that assertion, despite the fact that this is clearly not the intent of the bill. Simply put, you do not give your enemies (and the enemies of the United States) ammunition to attack programs essential to protecting the national security of the United States.

No, this piece of legislation needs to be withdrawn immediately, for the good of national security and the preservation of presidential power under the Constitution.

Posted by: Greg at 10:07 AM | Comments (4) | Add Comment
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1 Thanks for the link. I'm not opposed to the President, I'm opposed to certain ideas and actions, but I take them on a one-by-one basis as separate issues. There are more than a few issues in which I stand in solidarity with President Bush, too - as much common ground as is possible with his being a conservative and myself being a liberal.

Thanks again for the link; I've reciprocated of course, and....

Blog ON :-)

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at Sat Mar 18 08:23:36 2006 (OKBoD)

2 You made an interesting inference:
"Second, the legislation could be interpreted by partisans opposed to the President (or the security of the United States)..."

You see, I am opposed to the president because HE is opposed to the security of the United States. I want our country to be safer -- that I why I want this president to be impeached, and then imprisoned. Attacking Iraq showed his lack of concern for international law. Allowing torture, renditioning, and secret prisons in third world countries showed his lack for international law. Guantanimo Bay shows his lack for U.S. law (a similar facility could not exist in the U.S.). The Dubai/Dubya ports deal showed his lack of concern for domestic security.

Bush has not only turned the world against us (not a safe/secure thing to do), but he does not care about security at home.

Breaking the FISA law also showed his lack of interest in U.S. law. It also showed his contempt for the Constitution. There are no "inherent" executive powers that allow domestic spying. Nixon found that out.

I want a stronger, safer USA -- which is why I want to see Bush extricated from the White House and locked up in a Texas prison.

Posted by: johnny at Sat Mar 18 08:58:35 2006 (Dv1Yy)

3 GTL -- My apologies for any mischaracterization.

Johnny -- I guess you missed those UN resolutions we were enforcing, and my earlier posts on the court decisions from which I took the quote about the extent of the President's powers (the Truong case and In re: Sealed Case, the latter decided by the FISA created Foreign Intelligence Court of Review). Heck, I guess you missed Ex Rel. Quirin, which allowed Roosevelt significantly more powers regarding unlawful combattants than have been exercised by Bush.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sat Mar 18 16:10:10 2006 (5E1Ym)

4 "GTL -- My apologies for any mischaracterization."

No problem at all, Sir. Not really a mischaracterization either, for I am definitely a Liberal through and through, just not a partisan Democrat. I admit I am becoming more and more anti-GOP with every passing day, but I'm just pointing out to you that my policy has always been to TRY to bash the idea, the point of view, the action, etc.; but not the person unless they have been convicted in a court of law of a crime. Then the gloves come off.

I'm a pro NRA, pro ACLU sort of guy if that tells you anything :-)

Blog ON, and again; thanks for the "linkie luv"....

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at Sat Mar 18 17:51:52 2006 (OKBoD)

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