June 08, 2005
I wonder why the media isnÂ’t nearly so judgmental about this case involving the daughters of Minnesota Attorney General Mike Hatch (who recently announced as a candidate for the Democrat nomination for governor), in a case that has wound its way through the Illinois judicial system.
Anne Hatch, 22, and Elizabeth Hatch, 23, were arrested after an early hours scuffle with police outside the Crobar club on Chicago's Near North Side where they had been celebrating Anne Hatch's birthday in March 2004.Police allege that after the two were removed from the club, Elizabeth Hatch slapped an officer with an open hand and knocked his glasses off. Police said Anne Hatch wrestled with another officer and scratched his face and later broke a police car window.
Each woman faces misdemeanor counts of resisting a peace officer, simple battery and criminal damage to property or a vehicle.
The women were treated at a Chicago hospital for injuries they received, which included black eyes, cuts and bruises and a fractured wrist, a Hatch spokesperson has said. Mike Hatch said after the incident that his daughters were devastated and wanted to be accountable for their mistakes but that they denied having assaulted the officers.
They briefly planned to pursue a complaint of excessive force by the arresting officers, but dropped it a few days after the incident.
So let’s get this straight – the children a top state official get tossed out of a bar for being a disruption, and when the police were called they resisted arrest and assaulted the cops. Why was this only a misdemeanor? Then they wanted the police officers they assaulted to be punished for daring to use a curse word while taking the struggling little criminals into custody? Why wasn’t this a significantly bigger story?
I guess that these are just more examples of Democrat family values – just like we’ve seen from Kennedys, Gores, and Deans over the years.
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Posted by: Subjugator at Wed Jun 8 13:57:27 2005 (r/FBF)
As for this being an example of Democratic family values, I'm curious if you make the same generalizations about Republicans. Take for instance the guy who tried to shove a screwdriver through his girlfriend's neck for voting for Kerry. Are you willing to make the same broad statement and claim that he represents every Republican?
Posted by: dolphin at Thu Jun 9 04:24:08 2005 (fgsGh)
Especially since they used his name in an attempt to get special treatment and then tried to get the cops they assaulted punished for arresting them.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu Jun 9 05:39:49 2005 (DTBYN)
Bush's kids trying to drink while underage is in the same league as this, and they DO represent their father's political party to a degree.
In much the same way, these kids represent their father's political party to a degree.
The cretin that stabbed his girlfriend is an idiot that should be imprisoned (if he wasn't already). He is not representative of a political party.
Organized or prominent members of a political party or family represent them. So if a large group named "Democrats against guns" grew violent during a protest, then they would represent the party (to a degree). Similarly, if a large group named "Republicans for guns" grew violent during a protest, they would also represent the party (to a degree).
Protest Warrior has done a fine job of showing the behavior of many on the far left and what they do when they don't get their way. They get angry and break things, become physically violent to those that disagree with them, and otherwise practice what they say the ordinary right wing people do (the far right has its own problems with abortion bombers and the like).
Those people *are* representative of the far left. The difference is that aren't NEARLY as many people on the far right as there are on the far left that are behaving as described above.
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Posted by: Subjugator at Thu Jun 9 05:49:58 2005 (lkCzp)
I'd like to think you were right because that would mean that, as Alan Keyes daughter, Maya Keyes is representing a new face to the Republican party however a politicians children really don't represent the party of their parent.
Protest Warrior has done a fine job of showing the behavior of many on the far left and what they do when they don't get their way.
No, to be clear, PROtest WARrior does a fine job of selectively picking clips and shot of a small minority of leftie protestors misbehaving. It's a rather dishonest trick that is done by both sides. Take this post for example, one example is generalized to an entire half of the country.
Posted by: dolphin at Thu Jun 9 06:34:23 2005 (fgsGh)
All of that on purpose?
Because if you weren't doing it on purpose, you would HAD to have seen that I said the FAR left. I also included criticisms of the far right for similar behaviors.
I also didn't say everyone on the far left. I used the word many. I'm willing to bet that there are a LOT more than 50,000 people in the USA that are on the far left and behave as the people shown in the videos. 50,000 counts as 'many' to me.
According to Protest Warrior, they do not use selective clips, but try and show what they honestly see. I'll know for sure the next time they protest some protestors in Chicago because I plan to go.
...but would you believe me were I to say that the video was an accurate portrayal?
Note that they're not trying to say that everyone at these protests is nutso, but that a lot of them are, and that you can see large numbers of them gathering at such protests. I wouldn't say it's a valid portrayal of the leftists, but that it is a valid portrayal of the protestors, which is a significant subcategory.
Furthermore, as a member of an odd subculture (punks), I have to say that virtually every documentary I've seen on the subject, while it tends to show the stranger people within said subculture, it is still representative of what they were talking about...punks (yes, I'm old, and no, I don't have a mohawk anymore).
So anyway, what I was saying is that they portray an extreme side of the left that is violent when things don't go their way. I maintain that such was and is true.
Further - the left is NOT half of the country. The right is also not half of the country. MOST oc the country (population-wise) falls somewhere in the middle. I'm a far left kook (with far right economic ideals)...I know that most don't think as I.
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Posted by: Subjugator at Thu Jun 9 06:58:10 2005 (lkCzp)
Subjugator or Sub...
Bartleby is elsewhere!
Maybe I should just go by Bartleby everywhere.
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Posted by: Subjugator at Thu Jun 9 08:04:58 2005 (lkCzp)
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Posted by: Subjugator at Thu Jun 9 09:59:26 2005 (lkCzp)
One gets you a ticket.
The other gets you jail time -- assuming it doesn't get you shot.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu Jun 9 11:14:24 2005 (JMjzp)
They're both crimes - both acted irresponsibly. And by the way, depdending on where you do it, buying booze under-age can get you jail time.
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Posted by: Subjugator at Thu Jun 9 12:08:42 2005 (F02fZ)
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