October 06, 2005

Not A Free Speech Issue

I do wish folks would realize that private companies have the right to set certain standards on their property, and to refuse to serve those who engage in unacceptable behavior and speech.

Take this case.

A Portland woman's flight home was stopped short in Reno, all because the message on the T-shirt she was wearing.

Lorrie Heasley claims it's a freedom of speech privilege, but airline officials say the message brings safety concerns.

Heasley, "There are bigger problems in the country, I can't believe people can be so petty."

Heasley boarded her flight Tuesday morning in Los Angeles, headed for Portland, Oregon with a stopover in Reno. But when Southwest Airlines employees asked her to cover her shirt, her stop over became a stop off her flight.

"I was told that basically that I had to cover my shirt, or I was told if I cover the shirt I can basically stay on the plane."

So she covered the shirt, but during a nap while passengers were boarding in Reno the cover came off. And Southwest employees insisted, change the shirt, or change flights. "I didn't feel that I should have to change my shirt, because we live in the United States, and it's freedom of speech and it was based on the move "The Fockers", and I didn't think it should have offended anyone."
But it did.

The shirt had pictures of members of the Bush Administration, and a phrase based on the movie "Meet the Fockers," but with one crucial vowel changed.

Oh. You seem to think that you have the right to subject a captive audience to an obscenity. Wrong. The airline was well within its rights to tell you to change the shirt or go elsewhere. After all – it was protecting the rights of all the other passengers. I might have more sympathy with you if the objection wee based upon your infantile politics rather than your infantile form of self-expression, but the airline made the correct call here. For that matter, it would have even been acceptable, legally, to have required that you to remove the political speech, since it was by private directive rather than government mandate.

Let me give an example. Many years ago, I worked for an amusement park that used the Looney Toons characters as part of its theme. It had a policy of asking patrons who wore Disney character clothing to the park to change the clothing or turning the shirt inside out. One could argue that it was a bad idea, but it certainly was not a violation of any constitutional right – that would have required public action.

The moonbats are, of course, out in full force on the usual liberal sites. They have, of course, no leg to stand on – especially since liberals are usually the first to call for censorship of offensive speech.

Posted by: Greg at 11:09 AM | Comments (8) | Add Comment
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1 Au'contraire you bigoted buffoon, the shirt caused no harm, and if the airline personnel are so sensitive they need to leave the "service sector" they are so obviously incapable of handling.

Posted by: at Thu Oct 6 12:34:39 2005 (jU/el)

2 Actually YOU are the one who is wrong. The regulations specifically bar passengers wearing obscene messages on clothing.

The woman plans to file a civil rights lawsuit, which will be promptly thrown out of court.

This is NOT a free speech matter. This woman is nothing but a self-aggrandizing idiot, and I am ashamed people on the liberal side can't see the obvious.

Posted by: Susan Nunes at Thu Oct 6 13:51:34 2005 (CFAsw)

3 You are, of course, completely wrong as to the law and the facts, nameless coward.

The flight attendants were reacting to the complaints of other passengers, including parents with children, who took offense at the "F-word" confronting them in a small space where they were essentially captives.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu Oct 6 13:58:10 2005 (wfdL5)

4 I'd rather have a peaceful flight than to hear grumblings that could descend into a shouting match and chaos in mid-flight. Just nip in the bud and get it corrected in the first place. There are children on flight, guardians or parents have the right to ensure that their children not be exposed to such leery graphics pasted on passengers' t-shirts.

Posted by: mcconnell at Thu Oct 6 15:48:30 2005 (o58ig)

5 Free speech and other Constitutional guarantees only apply for protection from government intervention. If you come into my home or my business, I can dictate what you can and cannot say - it's MY home....MY business. I am not the government and am in no way bound by the provisions of the Constitution, since it only bars behavior of governmental entities.

Bartleby

Posted by: Bartleby at Thu Oct 6 23:57:54 2005 (r/FBF)

6 What ever happened to Common Sense?

Wait, we are talking liberals and the reality impaired...

If Common Sense was used, and clearly in this case it wasn't, the lady would have never worn this shirt on a plane in the first place.

It is more her fault than the airlines that this is a problem.

Posted by: Scubachris at Fri Oct 7 02:25:35 2005 (AktpP)

7 A perfect example: RWR can delete any idiotic comment that "Leisure Suit Larry" makes here, and he is not engaging in "censorship." This blog is a private entity, and as such RWR can do as he wishes with it. The fact that he allows morons like Larry to spew his garbage endlessly here just shows that RWR has a lot of character -- much more than Larry will ever hope to have.

Posted by: Hube at Fri Oct 7 13:42:13 2005 (jxPeg)

8 Hube, exactly. It's comical when these types of people rail about "censorship" in a blog comment box after getting deleted for profane use of language. The think that freedom of expression extends to all area of life and that censorship isn't allowed, even on private blog comments when it's a priviledge to be on...not a right.

Very funny people out there who don't know better.

Posted by: mcconnell at Sat Oct 8 08:48:16 2005 (CQ3Yp)

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