December 08, 2006
Prime Minister Fuad Saniora denounced Hezbollah and its leader on Friday in an unusually personal attack, a day after the guerrilla group's chief renewed his pledge to bring down the U.S.-backed government.The prime minister and Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah had traded barbs in the past, mostly through aides or supporters, but their recent remarks descended into direct attacks for the first time. The escalation of rhetoric marked a sharp turn in Lebanon's political crisis and further stoked the tensions between the two sides that threatens to tear the country apart.
"What we've seen yesterday was an unnecessary fit of anger and rudeness that we don't accept," Saniora told hundreds of supporters at his heavily fortified office complex where he has been holed up since the opposition launched street protests on Dec. 1 to bring down his government.
He accused Nasrallah of threatening a coup and said the protests will lead nowhere. Emboldened by international support for his U.S.-backed government, Saniora has repeatedly insisted he would not give in to the demonstrations.
In a rousing speech delivered Thursday night on huge screens in central Beirut, Nasrallah accused Saniora of conniving with Israel during its monthlong war with Hezbollah last summer. He claimed Saniora ordered the Lebanese army to confiscate Hezbollah's supplies of weapons - his sharpest attack on the prime minister since the August cease-fire that ended the fighting."Didn't the prime minister of Lebanon work to cut off the supply lines?" Nasrallah asked.
He said government officials had asked American envoys to persuade Israel to destroy Hezbollah: "Those are the ones responsible for the war, not the resistance."
We know that Hezbollah is nothing more than a Syrian and Iranian proxy, and that Syria has been killing Lebanese leaders for years in an effort to keep the country in turmoil. Let’s make it clear that any action against Saniora – and continued funding of Hezbollah – will be grounds for action against the Baathist government of Syria and Islamofascist government of Iran, which the “realists” of the Iraq Surrender Group see as partners for peace in the Middle East.
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First a reply to the Dec 4th siteowner comments which are continuously deleted when posted there.
When Palestine's owners ultimately seize their land back, American Christianity will be largely cleansed of your dispensationalist Old Testament hybrids and their fellow unraptured travellers who have more faith in Hebrew tribalism than in the Western Christian spirituality which transcended it.
I proffered you long ago a sample of Traditional Christian readings, in the form of Calvinist "Covenant Theology" of the nullified and fulfilled and transcended Old Testament Jewish tribalism. It has its analogues in Lutheran, Roman Catholic, High Church Anglican and Eastern Orthodox branches. Since you claim
knowledge of and lament what you term "anti-Semitism" in European Traditional Christianity, I suggest you spend more time studying essential
teaching rather than modernist, diseased libel against the Church by those who would unduly empathize with its chief historical enemy.
The Jews of the Old Testament are not the same people nor did they practise the same religion of any branch of modern Jews. The Talmud with its anti-Christian animus had not developed and when it did the Karaites refused to accept it or rabbinicism, using only the Torah-(and the Karaites, once significantly numbered, were exempted from persecution by Nazis, incidentially.)
Only a minority of the world's Jews even live in Palestine today and since God dealt with the Jews of the Old Testament as a UNIT, any attempt to recreate a frozen-in-time fossil of the past is futile, practically, but of course also injurious to the American body politic because of Israel's parasitical position to the American host.
However,if you so wish to wrench the Bible into legitimitizing your support for "Hebrew" racism funded by the American taxpayer, I suggest you promote legislation designed to deport the Jews of New York City and America to Palestine and help any other program "assisting" the balance of the world's Jews to return ,whether they wish to or not;after all, it's what your God wants... a dominant percentage of "Jews" there to make them players in your Abrahamic Covenant asininity,as God did not deal with segmented parcels of Old Testament Jews in his (conditional) agreements.
I could support such a venture except that the "land without a people" was never that, as the "people without a land" Zionist criminals propagandized-and they knew it. No, the Palestinian nation will seize ownership in a generation or two, destroying the shallow faith
of the "Old Testament American Christian" hybrid cultists , unRaptured away...
Then even Nietsche might smile at the revitalized American Christianity which will ensue on this continent.
Now--GOOD LUCK WITH THE MENACE TO SYRIA AND IRAN--THEY'RE IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT DUE TO BUSH'S BOTCHED AND QUAGMIRED INVASION. BUSH
WILL DO WELL TO ENTREAT THEM TO HELP HIM OUT OF THE IRAQI QUICKSAND,UNWINNABLE, BUT RE-TREATABLE WITHOUT MASSIVE TROOP LOSSES IF HE DEALS FAIRLY!
Posted by: Ken Hoop at Sat Dec 9 06:56:58 2006 (DZbll)
And I cannot help but point out that you STILL have not given me a single verse of Scripture to support your theological position.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sat Dec 9 07:15:33 2006 (QSK4N)
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sat Dec 9 07:17:30 2006 (QSK4N)
And I love your using Hitler as the epitome of Unique Historical Evil constantly,not realizing, or being able to improve on it, that tactic is increasingly recognzed as ineffectual diversion everywhere but neo-conned circles America..as a poignant political tool.
And I did provide you the entire Calvinist piece on the convenant replete with verse explication-- I hope your students retain knowledge better than you ,a purported ex-seminarian who shouldn't have needed it.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at Sat Dec 9 07:47:24 2006 (DZbll)
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9000/The_Church_Is_Israel_Now.htm
I provide this as a service to your readers, not yourself, who was already thus provided with similar. I do not embroil myself in detailed , petty American kindergarten-level religious instruction (the instruction being unnecessary in European Christian circles) because of the late date, the simple fact that "American evangelicalism" is hopelessly mired in heresy on the subject and the fact Zionism's sins have long since become obvious to the pertinently involved and aware,evils which would disabuse them of the heresy. Also detailed discussion infers the teaching Tradition is still debated or debatable when it is as established as the Virgin Birth.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at Sat Dec 9 08:13:17 2006 (DZbll)
But since the jackboot seems to fit, the Hitler analogy is the one I use.
And by the way -- I've yet to find that "Ooops, I changed my mind" verse cited anywhere. Instead we get one third-rater's inference.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sat Dec 9 09:54:05 2006 (QSK4N)
Since obedience to God obviously means to you, being a Talmudic-honoring anti-Christ, make it official and announce your de facto depaurture from the Church formally.In a previous age, dangerous heretics like you were dealt with summarily. Of course in previous ages, the Zionist movement did not exist,even among Jews, who believed their messiah must come before they were allowed to return, which in turn means, traditional Judaism as codified by Maimonedes also didn't understand your trashing definition of the Abrahamic Covenant was still in effect. This heresy in those ages would have been considered an amusing eccentricity, rather than dangerous, as it is now, because it is helping lead America into deserved defeat in the Middle East.
You would not fare well advocating an equally dangerous heresy in circa 1600.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at Sun Dec 10 07:42:18 2006 (DZbll)
But of course if you believe obedience to God for Jews means living in Palestine which you call Israel, you should be urging their deportation.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at Sun Dec 10 08:03:22 2006 (DZbll)
http://www.regentbookstore.com/radio/show_details.php?clipID=2539S-OT6&speakerID=bwaltke
and lest you mislead any of your readers about the position of the Church as viewed by orthodox Christian Theologians, whether Catholic or Protestant, (rather than laymen who also have abundant more knowledge on the subject than you) those readers can consult this work.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at Sun Dec 10 08:30:57 2006 (DZbll)
Finally anyone who believes one verse is sufficient to prove encompassing doctrine on, while interpreting that verse incorrectly to begin with is akin to simpletons like the snake handlers in Appalachia.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at Sun Dec 10 08:58:05 2006 (DZbll)
1) anti-American.
2) anti-Semitic.
3) a heretic.
You are hereby banned.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sun Dec 10 09:02:38 2006 (DlGJ3)
After all, what else would one call a statement that in an earlier age dangerous heretics like Rhymes With Right were dealt with summarily? It is clearly a call for my murder.
I'll be contacting Xavier University, Kenton Public Library, and Fuse Communications to see about ending your access to their internet services for violation of terms of service by threatening my life, as well as contacting law enforcement to see what actions could be taken to prevent your making an effort to carry out your fatwa.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sun Dec 10 09:34:47 2006 (DlGJ3)
But of course you are perfectly aware, but should be ashamed you denigrate, the Christian Church did not "murder" heretics -but rather put them on trial, permitting them to defend themselves-- then to recant.
It shows the depths to which Zionist-loving neocons and their fellow travellers stoop-as they call Murtha and dissenting Generals "traitors" themselves, to make political points. They cast their own Church as monsters.
Posted by: Ken Hoop at Sun Dec 10 10:40:47 2006 (p+UT4)
Posted by: Ken Hoop at Sun Dec 10 10:42:59 2006 (p+UT4)
You called for me to be dealt with "summarily", which means without trial or due process.
That constitutes a fatwa of the same nature as is issued and followed by your jihadi "soldiers of Christ" and their leaders. One more reason that i believe you are nothing more than a cyber-jihadi pretending to be a Christian for effect.
Now go away.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sun Dec 10 13:00:56 2006 (1kkMm)
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sun Dec 10 13:09:31 2006 (1kkMm)
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