April 30, 2006
Teacher Attempts To Murder Teen
I'll bet this guy doesn't get off because he is "too pretty to go to jail".
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A Freeburg High School driver's education instructor and professional wrestler, whose ring name is "The Teacher," has been charged with breaking the neck of 17-year-old Ashley Reeves of Millstadt and leaving her in dense woods to die.She was found by police at 2 a.m. Saturday. First listed in critical condition, Reeves had improved somewhat as of late Saturday afternoon after being evacuated to Cardinal Glennon Children's Hospital in St. Louis.
On Saturday evening, hospital spokesman Bob Davidson listed Reeves' condition as serious.
The sheriff's department held a press conference at 11 a.m. Saturday to announce the charges against Samson "Sam" R. Shelton, 26, of Wildwood Lake Estates in Smithton. Shelton was charged with two counts of attempted first-degree murder and one count of kidnapping. He is being held at the St. Clair County Jail with bail set at $1 million.
Shelton teaches both driver's and physical education and is a volunteer assistant baseball coach at Freeburg High School.
The formal charges state that Shelton "used his forearm with such force as to break the neck of Ashley Reeves," and also used his belt in an attempt to strangle her. The 6-foot, 1-inch, 200-pound Shelton is listed as a wrestler in the Ultimate Wrestling Alliance and has appeared in several metro-east prize rings, including in Fairview Heights and Cahokia.
After spending more than 30 hours over a rainy night in thick brush and trees behind a baseball diamond at Citizens Park in Belleville, Reeves, a student at Columbia High School, was discovered about 2 a.m. Saturday by sheriff's investigators.
She was reported missing by her family about 3:30 p.m. Thursday.
Now I will say that this guy clearly was not Ashley's teacher -- she attended school in a different district. Knowing what I do of the geography of the area, I suspect he may have been a neighbor or a member of the same church.
But regardless, this is a horrifying crime. It sounds like there is much more to come out -- but hopefully not in a manner that resembles the circus unfolding in North Carolina.
May this young lady recover and be restored to health to whatever degree is possible.
UPDATE: Just read the article from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch -- this guy was a real freak!
A profile of Shelton on the Web site for his fast-pitch softball team says: "Sammy is single and currently looking for a female companion. This may include long term or short term relationship. Age does not matter, must be cute or hot."The profile also said his hobbies include "touching hookers" and pornography, and described his occupation as a "teacher, pimp, pimp teacher, pro-wrestler."
Why do I get the impression that there may be some guys in the Illinois prison system who are hoping to have Shelton as a cellmate?
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You can pick and choose what you want from these internet sites and in this case they are looking for the worst.
Just about anyone with a website or myspace account has something that can be misinterpreted to fit the crime or make it seem like he is some horrible monster.
He is not...
This is something that probably turned bad and was mishandled by Sam.
Everyones a marter when a headline like this appears. But, look into your own website or your sons and daughters and see for yourself that things can be used for, or taken in out of a context to fit the crime.
Just about anyone with a website or myspace account has something that can be misinterpreted to fit the crime or make it seem like he is some horrible monster.
He is not...
This is something that probably turned bad and was mishandled by Sam.
Everyones a marter when a headline like this appears. But, look into your own website or your sons and daughters and see for yourself that things can be used for, or taken in out of a context to fit the crime.
Posted by: none at Mon May 1 04:43:03 2006 (Brmoc)
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"mishandled"?
He broke the nexk of a teenager and left her to die. I don't think "mishandled" even begins to cover such a course of action. That is like saying that OJ "mishandled" his relationship wih Nicole.
He broke the nexk of a teenager and left her to die. I don't think "mishandled" even begins to cover such a course of action. That is like saying that OJ "mishandled" his relationship wih Nicole.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Mon May 1 09:12:24 2006 (o6ECv)
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Hey. I go to Freeburg High School. I knew Sam Shelton well and talked to him everyday. He came off as a nice guy. He made himself out to be a big ladies' man. He and I used to play one on one with each other in the high school gym before my basketball practice. I am deeply saddened by his actions. I feel like I have lost an adult friend. I never would've thought he was capable of trying to take a life. Ashley has a strong will to survive and God made sure to keep her here so she can put him away. God bless Ashley and may he have mercy on Sam Shelton.
Posted by: Dani Collins at Mon May 1 12:50:33 2006 (2Blv+)
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Ok, this one I need 5 seconds!
Posted by: JimBD at Tue May 2 11:50:12 2006 (GoE0N)
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The bastard doesn't deserve mercy. He deserves slow death.(Even if Ashley appears to be a whore).
I heard she was pregnent, which would explain a lot. She tells him she's pregnant, he freaks, he kills her(or tries)...how pathetic. The question is, why would a good-looking guy have to resort to having illicit relationships with children?(Ugly chidren-sorry!). I'm 16, female, and disgusted with all of the teacher-student relationships popping up.
I heard she was pregnent, which would explain a lot. She tells him she's pregnant, he freaks, he kills her(or tries)...how pathetic. The question is, why would a good-looking guy have to resort to having illicit relationships with children?(Ugly chidren-sorry!). I'm 16, female, and disgusted with all of the teacher-student relationships popping up.
Posted by: Kim at Wed May 3 18:25:39 2006 (wZLWV)
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That’s real shallow of you KIM. I know your only a 16 y/o child, but think before your write something so stupid. I'm 19 and I know calling a fellow female ugly or a possible whore is wrong. It has nothing to do with her looks or her reputation. This is an innocent victim who survived despite the hours of torture she endured. Most people would not have survived. I admire her for that. I don't care if she was the town whore or Mother Theresa. Don't judge her by the silly rumors you have heard, your only making yourself look ignorant and jealous. "Ugly children" are you serious? I think Pink describes you best in her song "Stupid Girls". Oh, and learn how to spell pregnant and children little girl. These are simple words. Are you in a special class for that?
Posted by: Erin at Thu May 4 11:03:39 2006 (fU6Qz)
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I thought I had deleted Kim yesterday, but i guess it didn't go through. Just as well, because Erin said more or less what I feel about her post -- at least up to the last sentence or three.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu May 4 11:51:42 2006 (aVsZG)
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Hey, I'm sorry if you guys were offended by my post. Let me rephrase.
Most of the time, attractive men will date attractive women(over 18, preferably), and (Sorry!) Ashley just isn't in his leagues look-wise. The authorities say she was in a relationship with SS. Personally, I see this is an indicator of loose morals, therefore the word use "whore", however unfortunate. As for her surviving, that's great, and she certainly didn't deserve to be murdered(almost), but she was kinda asking for it. Okay, that sounded harsh.Please read between the lines. Botton line is, Shelton should die.Now.
Keep in mind, I'm close to her age, and have a LOT of perspective on how the crank turns, if you catch my drift.
As for my type-o, I got it right the 2nd time, so I can obviously spell, and hit the wrong key. Umm..I spelled children correctly the first time, too, just hit the wrong key(again). You're right, I am in a special class.For certifiable geniuses.(EXPO). Oh, and how did you know I was jealous? After all, it's not every day you get to be eaten alive by insects after having your neck broken...By the way, you're missing a comma before little girl.Kisses
Most of the time, attractive men will date attractive women(over 18, preferably), and (Sorry!) Ashley just isn't in his leagues look-wise. The authorities say she was in a relationship with SS. Personally, I see this is an indicator of loose morals, therefore the word use "whore", however unfortunate. As for her surviving, that's great, and she certainly didn't deserve to be murdered(almost), but she was kinda asking for it. Okay, that sounded harsh.Please read between the lines. Botton line is, Shelton should die.Now.
Keep in mind, I'm close to her age, and have a LOT of perspective on how the crank turns, if you catch my drift.
As for my type-o, I got it right the 2nd time, so I can obviously spell, and hit the wrong key. Umm..I spelled children correctly the first time, too, just hit the wrong key(again). You're right, I am in a special class.For certifiable geniuses.(EXPO). Oh, and how did you know I was jealous? After all, it's not every day you get to be eaten alive by insects after having your neck broken...By the way, you're missing a comma before little girl.Kisses
Posted by: Kim at Thu May 4 12:35:25 2006 (y6n8O)
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Girls Girls Girls !!! Glad your at least interested...THAT's important, I'm impressed!
However, the moral of the story is, in the olde vernacular: 'stay away from the near occasion of sin' simply and straight forward. That way you stay out of trouble and the leaches of society have less chance of getting their claws on you. They exist, people will try to tell you they don't, but then they can't explain whay we have victims.
However, the moral of the story is, in the olde vernacular: 'stay away from the near occasion of sin' simply and straight forward. That way you stay out of trouble and the leaches of society have less chance of getting their claws on you. They exist, people will try to tell you they don't, but then they can't explain whay we have victims.
Posted by: JimBD at Thu May 4 13:08:27 2006 (GoE0N)
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Kim, this is nothing less than abuse of a child by an adult. She is no more a "whore" or "asking for it" than you would be were you to be raped tonight by someone who broke into your house. That you appear incapable of understanding that is a clear sign of your immaturity, lack of compassion, and lack of morals.
And speaking as a high school teacher, I feel quite confident I can peg which broad "type" of student I would classify you as -- it is the one I call "prissy bitch". You know, the type who believes she is superior to her fellow students because she looks a little prettier and is maybe a bit smarter. My experience is that they often see themselves as morally superior to the girls who do happen to get pregnant -- especially as they congratulate tehmselves for being smart enough to have been born to a mommy and daddy who put them on the Pill so that can screw half the football team with impunity. Have I pegged you right?
And speaking as a high school teacher, I feel quite confident I can peg which broad "type" of student I would classify you as -- it is the one I call "prissy bitch". You know, the type who believes she is superior to her fellow students because she looks a little prettier and is maybe a bit smarter. My experience is that they often see themselves as morally superior to the girls who do happen to get pregnant -- especially as they congratulate tehmselves for being smart enough to have been born to a mommy and daddy who put them on the Pill so that can screw half the football team with impunity. Have I pegged you right?
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu May 4 13:52:19 2006 (aVsZG)
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Not at all. My 14-yr old sister has a baby, I don't believe in premarital sex, my fathers 80, my mothers insane, and, yes, I do look down on teen girls who get pregnant.Cool?
Broken home doesn't mean broken morals.I don't give anybody slack on that topic, because I fit the demographic perfectly, and yet I'm a straight-A, perfect attendance student.
Broken home doesn't mean broken morals.I don't give anybody slack on that topic, because I fit the demographic perfectly, and yet I'm a straight-A, perfect attendance student.
Posted by: Kim at Thu May 4 13:58:05 2006 (y6n8O)
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Well quit calling your sister a whore, because that's what you’re doing every time you make those derogatory comments. Sorry for those last couple of lines in my message. I responded out of anger and it was childish. I'm not taking back my whole message, but I do believe you are foolish and insensitive. Intelligence means nothing to me if you don't have commonsense.
Posted by: Erin at Thu May 4 14:41:22 2006 (fU6Qz)
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But..my "sister"(I don't regard her as such anymore) is a whore.Insensitive? Only to those who don't deserve sensitivity. Foolish? Ha. If I was foolish, I'd be dead.
Posted by: Kim at Thu May 4 15:05:14 2006 (Ffvoi)
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Kim you just need to stop posting. You didn't know these people. I did. She was not a whore. Sam was a charmer. He appears in a friendly, honest and non-harmful way. I am 17, I am Ashley's age. Sam was my teacher. Don't open your mouth with your own derogatory comments.
Posted by: Dani Collins at Thu May 4 15:08:16 2006 (rVyiY)
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Good advice, Dani.
And Kim, I would have to say that your sister and her child are better off for you NOT being a part of their lives.
Here's hoping you learn the difference between righteousness and self-righteousness at some point in your life -- preferably before you drive away all of the imperfect folks in your life who might, at some point, have considered the ever-so-perfect you worth giving a damn about.
And Kim, I would have to say that your sister and her child are better off for you NOT being a part of their lives.
Here's hoping you learn the difference between righteousness and self-righteousness at some point in your life -- preferably before you drive away all of the imperfect folks in your life who might, at some point, have considered the ever-so-perfect you worth giving a damn about.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu May 4 15:29:30 2006 (aVsZG)
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Ahh...I see I've discovered the pit of pro-choice losers who dare to call themselves *gasp* moral AND liberal( talk about a contradiction).
Teen pregnancy indicates immorality, which indicates that the said teen is a genuine slut, along with whatever deadbeat got her worthless self pregnant. Anyone who doesn't think the same should seriously think about throwing themself off of the neares building. RWR, I assure you, many people find moral fiber( dare I say it?) refreshing and even comforting in a world full of people like you. Consequently, I find myself surrounded by people who "give a damn", as you so charmingly put it, because I have principles.
Here's some free advice: Haul your overweight self out of bed, find someone who will have you(You'll have to develop some sense of basic human understanding first, of course), and get a real life.
By the way, your bitterness is SOOO obvious. I would screen your future posts if i were you, huh?
Teen pregnancy indicates immorality, which indicates that the said teen is a genuine slut, along with whatever deadbeat got her worthless self pregnant. Anyone who doesn't think the same should seriously think about throwing themself off of the neares building. RWR, I assure you, many people find moral fiber( dare I say it?) refreshing and even comforting in a world full of people like you. Consequently, I find myself surrounded by people who "give a damn", as you so charmingly put it, because I have principles.
Here's some free advice: Haul your overweight self out of bed, find someone who will have you(You'll have to develop some sense of basic human understanding first, of course), and get a real life.
By the way, your bitterness is SOOO obvious. I would screen your future posts if i were you, huh?
Posted by: Kim at Thu May 4 16:01:08 2006 (wZLWV)
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Well, you certainly have misread my comments -- andclearly NOT read my blog to find out what this place really is.
First, I'm not pro-choice or liberal. I founded the pro-life group at my university 25 years ago, and am still involved ith that movement. What i am is a Christian who recognizes that every person is a sinner, and that cutting others out of our lives for sinning means we will each live in a lonely little box. Moral standards are important, but the reality is that each and every one of us "misses the mark" (Greek -- hamartia -- usually translated as "sins" on the Bible). and falls short of those standards in one way or another. Is it your position that you do not do the same, and that you are a paragon of virtue that has lived your life without sin? Do you believe that, upon discovery that you have sinned, you should be shunned by one and all for that sin? Or do you believe that sexual sins are the only ones which God will not forgive and which we must likewise hold to be outside the bounds of forgiveness? And I'll point out that it is attitudes like yours that fuel the abortion culture you seem to oppose -- all your sister would have needed to do was secretly have her child sucked from her womb with a vaccuum hose for her to have kept your good opinion and her relationship with you! Remembr -- the message of Christ is one of love and repentance for sinners, not one of self-righteousness and condemnation. Your attitude is more reflective of the Pharisees.
As for my relationships, rest assured that they are just fine -- I'm happily married to a wonderful woman who I adore, though miscarriages ended our dreams of having children and medical issues disqualify us from adopting. I'll be taking her for medical testing today, becasue of concerns about a posible heart condition to go with her other health problems. So trust me, I know a great deal more about REAL relationships, little girl, than you have even had the opportunity to dream of in your sixteen years of life. One of the most basic things I learned is that there is no perfect person out there for us to be in relationship with -- as a friend, family member, or spouse -- and that as a result we must learn to love others who are flawed, just as they must accept our flaws to love us.
There are, those, of course, who disagree with that point of view. They tend to push away those who fall short of their (limited) vision of what it means to be moral, and justify all sorts of hurtful actions against the sinful in the name of encouraging morality. The two best examples of this sort of person in today's world would be Rev. Fred Phelps amd Osama bin Laden. Are you kin to either?
First, I'm not pro-choice or liberal. I founded the pro-life group at my university 25 years ago, and am still involved ith that movement. What i am is a Christian who recognizes that every person is a sinner, and that cutting others out of our lives for sinning means we will each live in a lonely little box. Moral standards are important, but the reality is that each and every one of us "misses the mark" (Greek -- hamartia -- usually translated as "sins" on the Bible). and falls short of those standards in one way or another. Is it your position that you do not do the same, and that you are a paragon of virtue that has lived your life without sin? Do you believe that, upon discovery that you have sinned, you should be shunned by one and all for that sin? Or do you believe that sexual sins are the only ones which God will not forgive and which we must likewise hold to be outside the bounds of forgiveness? And I'll point out that it is attitudes like yours that fuel the abortion culture you seem to oppose -- all your sister would have needed to do was secretly have her child sucked from her womb with a vaccuum hose for her to have kept your good opinion and her relationship with you! Remembr -- the message of Christ is one of love and repentance for sinners, not one of self-righteousness and condemnation. Your attitude is more reflective of the Pharisees.
As for my relationships, rest assured that they are just fine -- I'm happily married to a wonderful woman who I adore, though miscarriages ended our dreams of having children and medical issues disqualify us from adopting. I'll be taking her for medical testing today, becasue of concerns about a posible heart condition to go with her other health problems. So trust me, I know a great deal more about REAL relationships, little girl, than you have even had the opportunity to dream of in your sixteen years of life. One of the most basic things I learned is that there is no perfect person out there for us to be in relationship with -- as a friend, family member, or spouse -- and that as a result we must learn to love others who are flawed, just as they must accept our flaws to love us.
There are, those, of course, who disagree with that point of view. They tend to push away those who fall short of their (limited) vision of what it means to be moral, and justify all sorts of hurtful actions against the sinful in the name of encouraging morality. The two best examples of this sort of person in today's world would be Rev. Fred Phelps amd Osama bin Laden. Are you kin to either?
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu May 4 22:38:10 2006 (3JAqj)
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i dont think anyone should have to go through anything like this. but sadly enough there are worng people out there. they just cant wait for their oppurtunity. i give the family of this young lady my blessings.
Posted by: denea at Fri May 5 02:05:28 2006 (cvdLz)
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For the record, I don't believe in abortion.Why? Because I think that if people want to practice promiscuity, or hell, even extramarital sex they should pay the price,not the child.They can carry it to term, and then then put it up for adoption. Then they'll have learned a lesson, saved a life, and bear the stretchmarks(EW!) forever.
I also think there should be a stiff penalty for teen pregnancy, and that if the family of the said whore decides to keep the child, the siblings should be able to opt for fostercare.(Because very few people understand the humiliation one faces in such a situation. The "stigma", if you will.)
As for your post, well, I'm not going to waste time commenting on such drivel. That's just the way it is. Not lack of compassion, but presence of practicality.
I also think there should be a stiff penalty for teen pregnancy, and that if the family of the said whore decides to keep the child, the siblings should be able to opt for fostercare.(Because very few people understand the humiliation one faces in such a situation. The "stigma", if you will.)
As for your post, well, I'm not going to waste time commenting on such drivel. That's just the way it is. Not lack of compassion, but presence of practicality.
Posted by: Kim at Fri May 5 14:34:34 2006 (Ffvoi)
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Lol..that was a bit pathetic..grasping at straws, huh?
Posted by: Kim at Sat May 6 08:30:15 2006 (y6n8O)
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That's right crazy girl, whatever you say.
Posted by: Erin at Sat May 6 15:09:50 2006 (fU6Qz)
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ew! "Crazy Girl"...lol. So was your playdate with Dora the Explorer fun?
Posted by: Kim at Sat May 6 17:39:35 2006 (Ffvoi)
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¡Usted es muchacha loca correcta!
Posted by: Erin at Sun May 7 01:48:43 2006 (fU6Qz)
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Wow, you need to bone up on your spanish! The correct phrase was "Ésa es muchacha loca adecuada, lo que usted dice", all you did was tell me I'm correct, which is true but not applicable to your situation.(F-o-o-?)
¿La originalidad no es su forte, huh?
¿La originalidad no es su forte, huh?
Posted by: Kim at Sun May 7 11:23:22 2006 (y6n8O)
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“It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.â€
-Herman Melville
"ADVIRTIENDO: Muchacha blanca que traduce las " Gracias por la interpretación. Eso es lo que dije.
-Herman Melville
"ADVIRTIENDO: Muchacha blanca que traduce las " Gracias por la interpretación. Eso es lo que dije.
Posted by: Erin at Sun May 7 13:59:17 2006 (fU6Qz)
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The original Spanish response was in reference to your Dora comment. Crazy Girl
Posted by: Erin at Sun May 7 14:20:41 2006 (fU6Qz)
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No matter where you were responding, that makes no sense.
Advertencia: la gente que la finge es fluida en español hace a tontos de sàmismos. (A saber, Erin)
But, personally, I prefer French:Est-ce que j'un génie, que peut moi suis- dire ?
Spanish is such a...common language, don't you think?
Advertencia: la gente que la finge es fluida en español hace a tontos de sàmismos. (A saber, Erin)
But, personally, I prefer French:Est-ce que j'un génie, que peut moi suis- dire ?
Spanish is such a...common language, don't you think?
Posted by: Kim at Sun May 7 14:51:53 2006 (y6n8O)
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I am what Europeans call Lusófonos. I am not fluent in Spanish. Anybody with a highschool education can read and write simple spanish phrases. French is a cliché language for geniuses. Try something original. Learn Icelandic, and then I'll be impressed.
Posted by: Erin at Sun May 7 15:33:35 2006 (fU6Qz)
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Really? I would say 3 languages is pretty impressive for a 16-yr old...I'm working on Italian to make 4...Ottenga una vita, perdente!
Posted by: Kim at Sun May 7 15:53:27 2006 (y6n8O)
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Kim,
You have turned this whole topic of discussion into your life story. No one gives a damn about you on this webpage. You seem desperate for attention, but you wont find it here.
You have turned this whole topic of discussion into your life story. No one gives a damn about you on this webpage. You seem desperate for attention, but you wont find it here.
Posted by: Dani Collins at Mon May 8 14:14:52 2006 (KRsjW)
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Well, I do believe you've broken my fragile little heart. Whatever shall I do?
Posted by: Kim at Mon May 8 16:46:38 2006 (Ffvoi)
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Crawl back to the hole you've come from.
Posted by: Dani Collins at Tue May 9 09:07:30 2006 (7vy2m)
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Pass.I'm claustrophobic(Shh!). Do feel free to take my place, I'm sure you're much more suited for such enviroments, anyway.Kisses.
Posted by: Kim at Tue May 9 12:30:02 2006 (y6n8O)
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Frankly, dear Kim, you have abused my hospitality while my computer was down. Leave, and do nor return. Your arrogance is quite annoying.
And by the way, I would almost agree with you -- for the sake of the rest of your family, it would be much better if you were to be givent he option to be in foster care -- it would provide a much more pleasant and healthful environment for your sister and her child, both of whom need a loving, nurturing, supportive environment that would be impossible with you in the picture.
After all, your sister can decide not to have sex. Your being a b*tch seems to be a permanent character trait.
And by the way, I would almost agree with you -- for the sake of the rest of your family, it would be much better if you were to be givent he option to be in foster care -- it would provide a much more pleasant and healthful environment for your sister and her child, both of whom need a loving, nurturing, supportive environment that would be impossible with you in the picture.
After all, your sister can decide not to have sex. Your being a b*tch seems to be a permanent character trait.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Tue May 9 15:08:17 2006 (45Eu/)
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Actually, I'm agreeing with Kim alot. Am I a bad person?
Posted by: Eric Clemmonss at Wed May 10 10:32:36 2006 (+LgAZ)
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No, Eric, that means you're a smart person. By the way,RWR, what kind of "teacher" can't come up with a better response than that? Jesus, I'd do better even under an imminent death threat.Pa-the-tic. No one can phrase a decently challenging come-back, or *gasp* at least one that could even approach insulting me? I'm ashamed to be a citizen of earth...(Oh, please, people, don't even bother typing "we're ashamed you're a citizen of earth, too"..Geez, so predictable).
Posted by: Kim at Wed May 10 10:50:22 2006 (wZLWV)
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Eric -- it depends on what parts you agree with. There are some points which make sense, but others that I find morally reprehensible -- especially her libelous statement about a pregnancy, which this poor girl's mother has had to publicly deny since her daughter cannot defend herself from malicious bottom-feeders who gleefully attack her while she continues to fight for her life and health.
Kim - it is the obvious reply. On the other hand, I do not believe in the concept of world government, so i reject the notion of being a "citizen of the earth". However, I am more than willing to concede that I suffer from extreme regret that you and I share some quantity of the same ancestral DNA material, which gives you a basis for claiming membership in the same species as the rest of us.
Kim - it is the obvious reply. On the other hand, I do not believe in the concept of world government, so i reject the notion of being a "citizen of the earth". However, I am more than willing to concede that I suffer from extreme regret that you and I share some quantity of the same ancestral DNA material, which gives you a basis for claiming membership in the same species as the rest of us.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Wed May 10 11:06:03 2006 (JsMui)
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And I must note that the ever-so-moral Miss Kim didn't see fit to comment on the post in which Ashley's mother slaps down the libelous claims that Ashley is/was pregnant. I guess that acknowledging her own wrong-doing would require too much time away from spreading her venom and lies.
http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/176073.php
http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/176073.php
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Wed May 10 11:13:31 2006 (JsMui)
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That's because Kim and her friend Eric are crazy and they know they are wrong.
Posted by: erin at Wed May 10 14:42:53 2006 (fU6Qz)
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Well Maybe the reason Kim & her lil buddy Eric
(prolly the same person ) aren't commenting anymore is because they are to busy out being a genuine slut & a deadbeat !!!!
(prolly the same person ) aren't commenting anymore is because they are to busy out being a genuine slut & a deadbeat !!!!
Posted by: Diane at Wed May 10 14:50:04 2006 (Nyj/k)
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Well Maybe the reason Kim & her lil buddy Eric
(prolly the same person ) aren't commenting anymore is because they are to busy out being a genuine slut & a deadbeat !!!! That or her Mommy & Daddy found out she was acting like a GENUINE FOOL on thier computer & took it away from her =)
(prolly the same person ) aren't commenting anymore is because they are to busy out being a genuine slut & a deadbeat !!!! That or her Mommy & Daddy found out she was acting like a GENUINE FOOL on thier computer & took it away from her =)
Posted by: Diane at Wed May 10 14:51:45 2006 (Nyj/k)
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Who, ladies. Eric is someone I know and have a fair amount of resepct for -- BACK OFF. He is an adult with a responsible job, not a sock puppet.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Wed May 10 15:33:59 2006 (D/yVz)
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That's good to know. I didn't think Kim had any friends. As for Eric, I'm going to answer his question. You may not be a bad person for agreeing with Kim, but I would only expect a chauvinist guy to have the same opinion as her.
Posted by: Erin at Wed May 10 23:08:42 2006 (fU6Qz)
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Just reading your comments, I'm Depressed on your behalf. You're the kids who smelled in school, huh?
Erin, how would you connect me and Chauvinsm???lol, and people accuse me of being an extreme feminist.Ah, my aspirations crushed by a dehumanized nobody(NOT!).
Diane-I don't know what to say to you except, Did you even read any of my posts? (Oh, and some people have lives, finals, school, boyfriends, friends, dogs and jobs. We can't be on the internet all day, effortlessly defending ourselves against smelly people).
RWR-So predictable. Somehow, I expected better.Tsk-Tsk.
Dear Eric..Well, I have no idea who he is, but apparently he has good judgement. I assure you, we're not the same person...unless I have a siamese twin I'm unaware of(not likely).
People, people-Come on, think a little. Tell me what offends you so-I'm curious. Unless you're a whore, or a pimp(ugh!), I can't fathom this futile arguments purpose.
Oh, and of course-I didn't bother addressing the whole"mother-denies-daughters-whoredom" thing, because I didn't believe it necessary. Most of you seem to have at least half a brain, and should be aware that she doesn't want the cash flow to be obstructed by the pesky little fetus growing in her daughters unclean womb.
Erin, how would you connect me and Chauvinsm???lol, and people accuse me of being an extreme feminist.Ah, my aspirations crushed by a dehumanized nobody(NOT!).
Diane-I don't know what to say to you except, Did you even read any of my posts? (Oh, and some people have lives, finals, school, boyfriends, friends, dogs and jobs. We can't be on the internet all day, effortlessly defending ourselves against smelly people).
RWR-So predictable. Somehow, I expected better.Tsk-Tsk.
Dear Eric..Well, I have no idea who he is, but apparently he has good judgement. I assure you, we're not the same person...unless I have a siamese twin I'm unaware of(not likely).
People, people-Come on, think a little. Tell me what offends you so-I'm curious. Unless you're a whore, or a pimp(ugh!), I can't fathom this futile arguments purpose.
Oh, and of course-I didn't bother addressing the whole"mother-denies-daughters-whoredom" thing, because I didn't believe it necessary. Most of you seem to have at least half a brain, and should be aware that she doesn't want the cash flow to be obstructed by the pesky little fetus growing in her daughters unclean womb.
Posted by: Kim at Thu May 11 14:17:54 2006 (wZLWV)
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Oh Kimmy Kimmy Kimmy Come on Girl ~ Tell me you can come up with a lil better then "smelly" !?! Let me tell ya something lil girl I did read ur post . Thats why I responded to u the way I did ! You have the Nerve to call someone a dehuminized nobody ? Oh Please ~ How bout u go back a re read some of ur posting and then tell me who the dehuminized nobody is !?!
Posted by: Diane at Thu May 11 16:24:31 2006 (Nyj/k)
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Hey Genius, read my message again. The "chauvinist" remark was directed at Eric. Peace out Crazy Girl!
Diane, I agree with you but, please stop responding to her comments. Responding to Kim is like feeding a stray dog, once you feed it, you can't get rid of it. I’ve learned my lesson.
Diane, I agree with you but, please stop responding to her comments. Responding to Kim is like feeding a stray dog, once you feed it, you can't get rid of it. I’ve learned my lesson.
Posted by: Erin at Thu May 11 17:51:33 2006 (fU6Qz)
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Goodbye, Kim -- you were directed not to come back, but did so anyway.
You continued to repeat the falsehood -- so you are gone forever, banished back into your obscure little corner of nowheredom.
You continued to repeat the falsehood -- so you are gone forever, banished back into your obscure little corner of nowheredom.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Thu May 11 18:11:32 2006 (flbw+)
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Uh, yeah, I get that the chauvinist comment was directed at Eric, which is why I wrote "CONNECT", rather than direct(Do learn to decipher those little things called WORDS). Dear, dear Diane, I refuse to cater to misuse of the English language, so I didn't read very far into your post. I expend so little effort "bantering" with you people...Kind of sad, really. For you, I mean.
Posted by: Kim at Fri May 12 12:48:37 2006 (Ffvoi)
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Diane, Kim is crazy. There is nothing wrong with the way you write. The rest of us get it. Only people that are trying to prove that they are geniuses have to write with perfect grammar. You and I have nothing to prove, because we don't need the attention. I rather get my attention from my friends and family. So, it’s kind of sad she doesn't have anybody that gives her the care and attention she desperately needs.
Posted by: Erin at Sat May 13 10:35:25 2006 (fU6Qz)
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What can I say other than -quit being so predictable. Why would anyone craving attention say something obvously controversial? They would perhaps..Oh, I don't know, shoot down the obviously correct and extremely intelligent perdon who made the said controversial statement in a fruitless(and obvious) attempt to garner praise from Supporters of immortality. Oh, and you're right about one thing(*gasp*), only people TRYING to prove they're geniuses have to write with perfect grammar. Real geniuses aren't Trying to prove anything-we've already established the fact that we're better than the rest of you.
Posted by: Kim at Sat May 13 10:56:05 2006 (wZLWV)
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Ok Bobby Fischer
Posted by: Erin at Sat May 13 12:11:07 2006 (fU6Qz)
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You should have a comma after "Ok". Just jump off a building.Seriously.
Posted by: Kim at Sat May 13 12:32:51 2006 (y6n8O)
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Did I hurt your feelings? That wasn't my intention. I was just comparing you to another crazy child genius. My mistake, I thought you would’ve been flattered.
Posted by: Erin at Sat May 13 12:40:15 2006 (fU6Qz)
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Kim -- is it possible you have not gotten my message? YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE -- LEAVE!
And Kim -- I am not one of the "Supporters of immortality" -- I believe that it is appointed to each of us to die once, face the judgement of that Chief Magistrate in heaven, and thence to the eternal reward appointed to us.
Oh, and by the way, I've yet to see anything superior about you -- you are just one of the many conceited sixteen-year-olds I have dealt with over the years, believing herself to be superior to both her peers and the adults around her. I've come to see that they are very lonely people, who attempt to warm themselves by pointing to their extreme beauty, extreme intelligence, or extreme devotion to a cause. When they hit college, they usually find that it doesn't matter who they were in high school -- nobody at college likes them for who they are. Typically, they end up coming home at the end of first semester and going to community college, having been confronted with the fact that they have cultivated a personality that alienates everyone they meet.
Look at yourself closely and ask -- am I the sort of person I would like? If you are honest, i believe you will find the answer is NO.
And Kim -- I am not one of the "Supporters of immortality" -- I believe that it is appointed to each of us to die once, face the judgement of that Chief Magistrate in heaven, and thence to the eternal reward appointed to us.
Oh, and by the way, I've yet to see anything superior about you -- you are just one of the many conceited sixteen-year-olds I have dealt with over the years, believing herself to be superior to both her peers and the adults around her. I've come to see that they are very lonely people, who attempt to warm themselves by pointing to their extreme beauty, extreme intelligence, or extreme devotion to a cause. When they hit college, they usually find that it doesn't matter who they were in high school -- nobody at college likes them for who they are. Typically, they end up coming home at the end of first semester and going to community college, having been confronted with the fact that they have cultivated a personality that alienates everyone they meet.
Look at yourself closely and ask -- am I the sort of person I would like? If you are honest, i believe you will find the answer is NO.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sat May 13 12:58:25 2006 (1TJWR)
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RWR, that's what you'd like to believe...it makes your life bearable, right? OK, well...lol.I won't burst your protective little bubble for now.
Erin-Give it up. As I read failure after failure (and recieve my daily dose of laughter), I almost feel sorry for you...19, not-too-bright, obese, and probably scarfing greasy french-fries(fastfood kills!), as you read. Well, let me spare your clogged heart any unecessary effort; admit defeat(not that it was much of a fight-you generally have to exert SOME effort during a fight, and I certainly didn't, although I'm sure you burned off at least some of the dozen donuts you consumed over the day), and bow out gracefully.(Can morbidly obese people bow?).
Erin-Give it up. As I read failure after failure (and recieve my daily dose of laughter), I almost feel sorry for you...19, not-too-bright, obese, and probably scarfing greasy french-fries(fastfood kills!), as you read. Well, let me spare your clogged heart any unecessary effort; admit defeat(not that it was much of a fight-you generally have to exert SOME effort during a fight, and I certainly didn't, although I'm sure you burned off at least some of the dozen donuts you consumed over the day), and bow out gracefully.(Can morbidly obese people bow?).
Posted by: Kim at Sat May 13 17:05:11 2006 (y6n8O)
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I looked at your ugly my space pic. I started laughing the moment I saw you. Are you blind? Not only are you ugly, but your heavier than me. Go develop an eating disorder. I think the binge and purge diet will work fine for you. Before the semester was over I played soccer and practiced almost daily. I don't think obese people can even go to school. I currently work a couple of nights a week as a waitress at a famous sports bar and grill. Ugly girls like you try to get jobs there all of the time. We tell them we are not hiring, just to be nice.
Posted by: Erin at Sun May 14 00:32:52 2006 (fU6Qz)
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Kim, I'm done using this site to argue back and forth. E-mail me if you have and further height, weight, or nutrition questions.
Posted by: Erin at Sun May 14 00:40:29 2006 (fU6Qz)
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Kim -- leave, if you value your AOL account.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sun May 14 06:30:35 2006 (pR9X1)
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Tsk, Tsk, Tsk....taking your insecurities out on me.so sad.
Posted by: Kim at Sun May 14 07:46:35 2006 (wZLWV)
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FYI
From: Greg Mailed-By: gmail.com
To: "barelymuggle2@yahoo.com" , lycansshadow@aol.com
Cc: abuse@yahoo.com, abuse@aol.com
Date: May 14, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhymes With Right] New Comment Posted to 'Teacher Attempts To Murder Teen'
Dear Kim:
You have been repeatedly requested to cease commenting on my website, located at rhymeswithright.mu.nu . I am once again requesting that you cease doing so, as is my right as the site host. This is your last warning. Do not contact me or post on my site from either your yahoo or aol addresses, or from any other address. Further postings or emails will be considered harrassment and will be reported to the appropriate authorities for possible legal action
Please note that I have asked repeatedly that you refrain from posting at my site, as is quite clear from the comment thread located at this address -- http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/174450.php . You have repeatedly and flagrantly refused to either acknowledge my request or abide by it.
You will note that this has been sent to both AOL and Yahoo. This is to establish a record of my request that you cease all contact or use of my site. Any further contact beyond a polite acknowledgement of the receipt of this message will be forwarded to them with a request that they terminate your account.
Sincerely,
Greg
AKA Rhymes With Right
rhymeswithright.mu.nu
From: Greg Mailed-By: gmail.com
To: "barelymuggle2@yahoo.com" , lycansshadow@aol.com
Cc: abuse@yahoo.com, abuse@aol.com
Date: May 14, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhymes With Right] New Comment Posted to 'Teacher Attempts To Murder Teen'
Dear Kim:
You have been repeatedly requested to cease commenting on my website, located at rhymeswithright.mu.nu . I am once again requesting that you cease doing so, as is my right as the site host. This is your last warning. Do not contact me or post on my site from either your yahoo or aol addresses, or from any other address. Further postings or emails will be considered harrassment and will be reported to the appropriate authorities for possible legal action
Please note that I have asked repeatedly that you refrain from posting at my site, as is quite clear from the comment thread located at this address -- http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/174450.php . You have repeatedly and flagrantly refused to either acknowledge my request or abide by it.
You will note that this has been sent to both AOL and Yahoo. This is to establish a record of my request that you cease all contact or use of my site. Any further contact beyond a polite acknowledgement of the receipt of this message will be forwarded to them with a request that they terminate your account.
Sincerely,
Greg
AKA Rhymes With Right
rhymeswithright.mu.nu
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sun May 14 08:53:42 2006 (6wXR5)
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I think Kim has a point, and that you only kicked her off because she was beating you in your "battle of wordplay". I hate to sound so childish, but it's just the truth.
Posted by: Lionel at Fri May 19 07:09:47 2006 (eF2Bv)
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Kim was too clever for RWR.
Posted by: Dan at Fri May 19 13:14:49 2006 (aSKj6)
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In all my time as a blogger, I have imposed two bans.
One was a guy whose posts were Tourettes-like in their use of profanity.
The second was kim, a malicious spreader of false tails who was repeatedly asked to refrain from making her malignant posts.
One was a guy whose posts were Tourettes-like in their use of profanity.
The second was kim, a malicious spreader of false tails who was repeatedly asked to refrain from making her malignant posts.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Fri May 19 17:08:36 2006 (/QTKv)
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Hey, it's your blog and you're free to restrict speech on it whenever you can't handle what somebody is saying. Personally, I've never banned anybody, or even deleted a comment for reasons of content (though I probably would if somebody were only posting profane nonsense), but I tend not to be scared by words.
I have no idea about whether the pregnancy is a "false tail" or not, and I'd be surprised if you know, either. The fact that Kim says she was I take as cruel gossip, and that's all. The fact that her mother says she wasn't I take as understandable, but not dispositive. It's irrelevant either way.
It's kind of odd how upsetting you find the cruel gossip, though, especially when it obviously comes from a source without direct knowledge. IF she were pregnant, would that make her death less sad? Shouldn't pro-lifers be even more upset? Or is the loss of a potential fetus somehow less important than the possibility that the poor girl had not lived her life in obeyance of your views on sexuality?
I have no idea about whether the pregnancy is a "false tail" or not, and I'd be surprised if you know, either. The fact that Kim says she was I take as cruel gossip, and that's all. The fact that her mother says she wasn't I take as understandable, but not dispositive. It's irrelevant either way.
It's kind of odd how upsetting you find the cruel gossip, though, especially when it obviously comes from a source without direct knowledge. IF she were pregnant, would that make her death less sad? Shouldn't pro-lifers be even more upset? Or is the loss of a potential fetus somehow less important than the possibility that the poor girl had not lived her life in obeyance of your views on sexuality?
Posted by: Dan at Fri May 19 23:37:23 2006 (aSKj6)
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Dan--
A teenage girl is attacked and left for dead. She is found alive, and fighting for her life in a hospital. Along comes some obnoxious child calling her (when you cut through all the vebiage) an "ugly little whore who was asking for it". Having been taken to task for it and asked to stop posting on my site, she continues with a series of insulting and unwelcome posts AND accused the victim's mother of lying in order to profit off of her daughter's injuries-- and even changes her method of accessing the site to get around my initial blocking (which I imposed when she made continued unwelcome posts in my absence while my computer was down).
This case resonates with me for a lot of reasons. I've had to report several cases of sexual abuse of student about Ashley's age. Ashley is a kid from the small town where i once lived. Several friends of mine have been victims of sexual assault over the years.
One, age 14, was abducted, sexually assaulted, and murdered thirty years ago-- abandoned in the woods. I remember the rumors about her during the three months she was missing -- including the ones that she was hooking in one of the local touristy areas. I remember the pain such false stories caused family and friends.
And Dan, I don't know where you get all that crap in the last paragraph. What happened would not in any way be more acceptable if Ashley were pregnant. Indeed, it would make the actions of the child-abusing bastard who did this even more sad.
Oh, and this article includes some pretty shocking details of what this son-of-a-bitch professional wrestler did to this child.
http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/news/local/crime_courts/14627007.htm
A teenage girl is attacked and left for dead. She is found alive, and fighting for her life in a hospital. Along comes some obnoxious child calling her (when you cut through all the vebiage) an "ugly little whore who was asking for it". Having been taken to task for it and asked to stop posting on my site, she continues with a series of insulting and unwelcome posts AND accused the victim's mother of lying in order to profit off of her daughter's injuries-- and even changes her method of accessing the site to get around my initial blocking (which I imposed when she made continued unwelcome posts in my absence while my computer was down).
This case resonates with me for a lot of reasons. I've had to report several cases of sexual abuse of student about Ashley's age. Ashley is a kid from the small town where i once lived. Several friends of mine have been victims of sexual assault over the years.
One, age 14, was abducted, sexually assaulted, and murdered thirty years ago-- abandoned in the woods. I remember the rumors about her during the three months she was missing -- including the ones that she was hooking in one of the local touristy areas. I remember the pain such false stories caused family and friends.
And Dan, I don't know where you get all that crap in the last paragraph. What happened would not in any way be more acceptable if Ashley were pregnant. Indeed, it would make the actions of the child-abusing bastard who did this even more sad.
Oh, and this article includes some pretty shocking details of what this son-of-a-bitch professional wrestler did to this child.
http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/news/local/crime_courts/14627007.htm
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sat May 20 02:31:20 2006 (PEFrQ)
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RWR - We have no disagreement on the sickness of the crime, or its sadness.
Posted by: Dan at Sat May 20 09:46:01 2006 (aSKj6)
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And at no point would I have ever dreamed we did, Dan. The comments i made about my Darling Democrat in my commentary on "values voters" would apply equally to you -- you are an individual of good will and good values, even if they lead you to different conclusions than mine.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Sat May 20 12:20:52 2006 (iy7Eg)
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Wow. RWR, I just don't understand why you have a problem w/Kim. It appears as if she's just stating her opinion.She was preety civil about it too, considering the way you and Erin were acting. I don't want a repeat of her situation, so I'll politely ask you to explain.Thanks.
Posted by: Lionel at Tue May 23 06:22:42 2006 (eF2Bv)
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Let's see -- the girl made libelous statements against Ashley Reeves, stating she was pregnant and a "whore". Those are not opinions -- they are out and out falsehoods that were not acceptable to me. When offered the chance to retract at least that much, she refused to do so and then libeled Ashley's mother by calling her a liar who was in it for the money. That was sufficient to get her asked to leave. I explained why the Ashley Reeves case resonates with me elsewhere on this thread.
But beyond that, her "I'm perfect, anyone who disagrees with me is a loser and evil" posts got rather annoying. My intent at the early stage was to make her feel unwelcome. She didn't take the hint.
But the last straw was what i found when i finally got up and running again after my system crash -- Kim had turned the thread into the Kim show. I directed her to leave my site on May 9, but she refused to do so, posting repeatedly after acknowledging my directive to get off my site -- even changing email addresses to circumvent my attempt to ban her. It took her five days to comply with that demand, along with making contact with AOL and Yahoo. I informed her of my intended course of action if she contacted me in the futere.
She contacted me anyway.
And having found something else she posted that contains her email address, I feel pretty sure that my assessment of her personality type was accurate.
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/ttchandra/vpost?id=1043519
But in the end, it is real simple -- I choose not to put up with her, and want her gone. That is my right.
But beyond that, her "I'm perfect, anyone who disagrees with me is a loser and evil" posts got rather annoying. My intent at the early stage was to make her feel unwelcome. She didn't take the hint.
But the last straw was what i found when i finally got up and running again after my system crash -- Kim had turned the thread into the Kim show. I directed her to leave my site on May 9, but she refused to do so, posting repeatedly after acknowledging my directive to get off my site -- even changing email addresses to circumvent my attempt to ban her. It took her five days to comply with that demand, along with making contact with AOL and Yahoo. I informed her of my intended course of action if she contacted me in the futere.
She contacted me anyway.
And having found something else she posted that contains her email address, I feel pretty sure that my assessment of her personality type was accurate.
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/ttchandra/vpost?id=1043519
But in the end, it is real simple -- I choose not to put up with her, and want her gone. That is my right.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Tue May 23 12:07:35 2006 (4CyxV)
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Kim and i had a "meeting of the minds. We have worked out the problem (I believe), and i have unbanned her. I don't think either of us have shown ourselves at our best in this whole situation, but i think the most recent exchange of emails was a good and healthy thing.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at Wed May 24 23:12:47 2006 (hAx8g)
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